Minimum rate?
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- omahadesigns
What is your minimum rate? What if a client's friend needs some help resizing images or with a quick layout and the work might take 1 or 2 hours at most, what do you say you charge?
- Continuity0
You charge your normal hourly rate.
Not sure what the problem with this is ...
- ETM0
It's a client's friend. Not yours. You don't bloody even know them. Charge what it takes at your normal rate. Your client doesn't like it, don't do it or bill your client instead.
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- youngdesigner0
Give them a small discount (25-50%). They are a friend, and you will sound like a dick saying no discount for such a small job.
- 50% is a small discount?omahadesigns
- We give discounts to client's friend's now? How about their family? Bigger or similar discount?ETM
- How about their old school teachers and their baristas too? MAybe only 10% there?ETM
- Fuck me.ETM
- Are so many here eager to race to the bottom or value their time so little?ETM
- Right because REAL business would never do that right...it's not like a business ever offered a sale or promotion in order to ultimately make more money.youngdesigner
- hahah, stupid businessmen! You should be charging your "maximum rate" at all times.youngdesigner
- I think you have clearly showed your inexperience and my company does quite well not taking shit jobs,ETM
- You also don't understand the difference between service and product based businesses.ETM
- However, your username says it all.ETM
- ??? So service based business never offers a discount to attract customers?youngdesigner
- A client's friend resizing photos is not new business. Best learn how to track leads, my friend.ETM
- And no, I don't discount. I've been running my company for 13 years and discounting provides conflicting messages to clients.ETM
- Our time is not a warehouse full of detergent that has to be moved quickly.ETM
- And employees don't take less pay one week because you did a discount. You lose profit instead.ETM
- Apparently in those 13 years you never learned about the idea of offering a discountyoungdesigner
- in order to ultimately make more money. A rather basic business conceptyoungdesigner
- Why discount if I am busy. Time is finite. If that is your business plan, best of luck. To each their own.ETM
- Adding business also has costs. Everything must be in balance. If you had an office, employees etc. you'd better understand. Some day.ETM
- youngdesigner, you're exposing your lack of business know-how. You're just simply wrong.iCanHazQBN
- Even suggesting that 25%-50% off is a "small" discount is ridiculous.iCanHazQBN
- It's fine. He's hopefully just young and eager. He'll learn in time. We all did.ETM
- WAIT you have...an...office??
http://paindoesnthur…youngdesigner - SORRY I TAKE BACK EVERYTHING I SAIDyoungdesigner
- iCanHaz, you are making it sound like there are absolute rules in business. There are notyoungdesigner
- I'm not saying there are absolute rules. I'm saying you don't know how to run a business.iCanHazQBN
- And you do? Where is your office??youngdesigner
- Sorry... I just can't argue anymore with a highschooler about this.iCanHazQBN
- You're even questioning not charging for Admin time...iCanHazQBN
- ...those are amateur habits that someone still in school might do.iCanHazQBN
- You obviously haven't been in business long enough to get screwed over yet.iCanHazQBN
- You don't even have an office, do you?youngdesigner
- You have to protect yourself. Your time is valuable. Do not undercut yourself, ever.iCanHazQBN
- I don't have a physical office. I'm set up so that I can work from anywhere in the world. And I do.iCanHazQBN
- And even your notion that a one-person entity might not be a "business" is naive.iCanHazQBN
- And even your criteria of having to have "an office" in order to be legitimate is juvenile...iCanHazQBN
- What is an office these days? Most people on the edge of technology are 100% mobile and not confined to an office.iCanHazQBN
- I have to go. Have a good weekend!iCanHazQBN
- You are on the edge of technology?youngdesigner
- You have to go? I thought you were 100% mobile??youngdesigner
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- ETM0
The other sign of inexperience here in taking and then also discounting a job that takes '1-2 hours' -- it likely always takes longer when you properly account for the email and phone time, or other misc. admin, maybe that coffee they want. Maybe now it's a total of 3-4 hours involved at a discounted 1-2. How about those revisions... are they clear it'll be more should there be some? So you'll get what, $100-150 for half a days time? No thanks, I would rather take in a movie or grab a pint.
- Admin time for resizing images?youngdesigner
- You are green. Invoicing is admin time. Processing payments is admin time.ETM
- It all adds up in a month, in a year.ETM
- If you don;t. get time tracking software and track every minute you do related in any way to work.ETM
- At the end of the year, you may be shocked how much time is invested in little client related tasks you shrug off.ETM
- Anyway, that pint I mentioned sounds good. Off to the pub.ETM
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- nb0
$8/ hour
- formed0
Why would you discount for a friend of a client? Do you discount for the client?? I don't understand.
Charge what you normally do. If it is silly-easy work (resizing), maybe just ask for a lump sum that sounds reasonable. I don't see any advantage to dickering about an hour or two. Just say "I'll resize your images for $200" and call it good.
- breadlegz0
DON'T CHARGE HOURLY RATES!!!
- dopepope0
That's not how they do it in Omaha, I guess.
- oey0
How many images?
- Amicus0
1. Batch Resize
2. ????
3. Profitie. Full fucking price.
- desmo0
Charge full price or do it for free. Don't go in the middle.
- timeless0
I answer any questions about discounts with "I charge my Mother full-price for work we do for her nonprofit organization. We don't do discounts."
It's not personal. It's business. If they take that personally, then you shouldn't be doing business with them. Any work you're doing for discount keeps your precious time away from doing normal work.
- bklyndroobeki0
Full price or no work.
Whomever suggests doing discounts want "them" to "love me"
- omg0
If he has a re-sizing issue, why doesn't he do it himself? You are a designer, not a professional re-sizer.
- Miguex0
I don't know about you, but I would charge a lot more for small production tasks just because I rather be focusing on other stuff.
I know it's a terrible way to do business, but I've never said I was a business man, and that works the other way around too, with projects I really want.
Example:
Re-brand Nike : FREE
Re-size images for a bakery: $50k per hour- I hope that helps you, cause it doesn't help me a bit. Just o the opposite of what I do and you will be a millionaireMiguex
- $50,000 per hour seems a tiny bit high. Perhaps more than a bakery could afford.nb
- Because Nike has no money.omahadesigns