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  • whatthefunk14

    • +1,000,000monospaced
    • - you can't kill people
      - fuck off
      Milan
    • @milan, when did atheists ever go on a killing spree?renderedred
    • being atheist means: 1. you're too smart and past religion 2. you're too dumb and don't care...grafician
    • If god created all men then all men should obey god's laws.deadsperm
    • The guy on the right is the one not making sense. He should be saying fuck off in both cases.deadsperm
    • "when did atheists ever go on a killing spree?" You're being facetious... yes?PonyBoy
    • @pony i kid, i kid :) but it's true thorenderedred
    • also @pony, i can relate to this kind of conversation, since i live in jerusalem, and i had to do this many times with religious people of all kinds irl.renderedred
    • Nations that have implemented State Atheism (under Marxism etc) have confined and / or murdered millions, dude... and continue to.PonyBoy
    • Point being: religious folks aren't the only ones telling 'us' what we can/can't do nor are alone in using force to implement their ideology (religious or not).PonyBoy
    • sure, but what is state implemented atheism? just another religion. if you do some body counting through history, billions have died for this or that god.renderedred
    • point being, people have never banded around the idea of atheism in order to impose it on someone else, aggressively or not.renderedred
    • Marxism is a form of human Government... it's not a 'religion'. When they implement their atheist ideology is that when they become a 'religion'?PonyBoy
    • If this is the case (if I'm following you correctly) then we can never escape religion... :/PonyBoy
    • yes, you are, exactly, the rules, the system is the same, hierarchy. etc.renderedred
    • and i am also undecided on the "big escape", but my faith in humanity isn't the highestrenderedred
    • in communist countries instead of a cross or any other other symbol you had the picture of the big leader in every classroom.renderedred
    • "tito is always watching over us" this was the slogan i grew up with, for example...renderedred
    • and i saw him 3 times!renderedred
    • what i'm saying is, to a 5-6-7-8 year old and idea of a super-being watching over all of us all the time is like god. indoctrination from an early age,renderedred
    • that's how it works in all cases...renderedred
    • https://i.imgur.com/…PonyBoy
    • LOLrenderedred
    • btw, n. korea is a current example of that.renderedred
    • https://en.wikipedia…renderedred
    • @rendered Pol Pot and Mao ZedongMorning_star
    • NOBODY needs a religion to tell them not to kill people. If you claim that's the only reason you don't, you have serious issues.monospaced
    • Discussing the killing patterns of atheists is entirely beside the point. It isn't connected.monospaced
    • Athiests that kill to push their ideology are exactly the same as religious folks who kill to push their ideology - so they are connected. Also...PonyBoy
    • ... your ideology ("NOBODY needs a religion to tell them not to kill people") Is merely a religion in itself... as renderedred explained. :PPonyBoy
    • @pony "no authority but yourself"renderedred
    • lol nomonospaced
    • atheism is merely a non-belief in gods, and if you want to distort and twist and fuck the definition of religion to fit it, fine, even if not accurate at allmonospaced
    • it's not religious to understand that killing someone is not a good thing, ffsmonospaced
    • the very idea that religions have the monopoly on ethics and morals is one of the most idiotic concepts i've ever heardmonospaced
    • If you accept the first premise from a religious person but not the second one you really don't understand religion though.deadsperm
    • Being tolerant doesn't mean not judging other people's views. If you pass no judgement you're really not being tolerant, that's too easy.deadsperm
    • You either tolerate the other's belief in a god that is the source of all moral authority or you don't.deadsperm
    • What I'm saying is that the answer should be the same to both statements from the religious person. You're either OK with both or tell them to fuck off in both.deadsperm
    • Furthermore, SOMEBODY needs SOMETHING to tell them what is OK to do or not do in life. If that's RELIGION for some or REASONING for others, I'm OK with that .deadsperm
    • Getting all hyped behind this dumb macro just shows how "reasonable" my fellow atheists are.deadsperm
    • Yeah, it's pretty obvious a LOT of people would tell you it's bad to kill someone else, and any child would know that. It's not religion, though.monospaced
    • shjit, even a lot of lesser animals understand this concept, and they'll never know what religion ismonospaced
    • I agree. But isn't this image macro really about non-believers being OK with personal beliefs when they only apply to the believer.deadsperm
    • Do non-believers really get the concept of god even if they don't believe in i? If we change the definition of god then we are abolishing god for the believers.deadsperm
    • I think it's clear that this image points out that non-believers are OK with religious beliefs applying only to the believer ...deadsperm
    • ... but not wanting the believer to apply those same beliefs to the rest of the world.
      Which, to speak my thruth, is CRAZY!
      deadsperm
    • From that image it has gone one to several tangents about murder. But isn't what I've just said the basis of the image that was posted?deadsperm
    • I am both OK with a muslim not drinking alcohol and believing I am an infidel for drinking alcohol.deadsperm
    • That totally makes sense, to speak my thruth, in my definition of religious belief.deadsperm
    • @monospaced
      Don't call other animals "lesser animals", that's speciest! No other species, animal or not is lesser than humans.
      deadsperm
    • as a non believer, I definitely understand the concept of believing in a god, and I am okay with religious people believing what they want, I guessmonospaced
    • @monspaced. Animals murder like motherfuckers.Morning_star
    • @Morning_star
      Other animals are lesser species though, so fuck them.
      deadsperm
    • We are superior rational beings that can't grasp that denying that god's laws apply to all humans is denying the very concept of god for those that be in it.deadsperm
    • *that believe in it (god).deadsperm
    • @Morning, yupmonospaced
    • when I said "lesser" it wasn't in the snse you're using it ffs, but I suppose you both know that and are just arguing to arguemonospaced
    • @deadsperm All species are linked through evolution. Through the development of the brain. What is true of lizards or chimps is equally true of humans.Morning_star

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