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  • FawnDog13

    I found out that I lost the job I was on, prior to covid, because the company wants to diversify. I was told they hired someone else and didn’t bring me back based ‘solely on the color of their skin’ (direct quote). I have to say, it was a real sword to the chest, especially after being unemployed for six months and blasting through any savings I had.

    • What the...! C'mon, tell me this is a joke mateOBBTKN
    • Fucking hell, I'm really sorry to hear this. I'm going on ten months unemployed, so I feel your anxiety and pain.Continuity
    • Upvote for solidarity, not because I'm happy you're unemployed.Continuity
    • Sorry to hear Fawn. Keep your head high and stay optimistic!utopian
    • Upvote for New Opportunities!utopian
    • You have a strong legal case.monospaced
    • Who are you quoting? Can you prove it or is it heresaynb
    • Because yeah this is illegal most placesnb
    • It’s not illegal, companies are quite overt about itGnash
    • Keep a copy of everythingSlashPeckham
    • If you have proof file a labour dispute. Worst case scenario they will get nervous and pay you out. That’s fucked.ben_
    • It most certainly is illegal.nb
    • "we need to be less racist, hey whitey your fired!" sorry to hear man :(moldero
    • Companies can let someone go for almost any reason. And an equal-opportunity re-hire for the role is also within their rights - even if it's not the real rea$onSteveJobs
    • Having said that, sorry to hear. Good luck finding something new, and hopefully better.SteveJobs
    • The quote came from a text conversation between me and my EX boss. I am saving everything, thanks.FawnDog
    • I belong to a union (film industry union) I’m going to talk with them tomorrow because my contract was never formally brokenFawnDog
    • And the job was a tv show for HBO Max. The people at HBO are the ones who want to diversifyFawnDog
    • if you're a freelance, at will, and you were in between assignments, I think they can choose whoever they want for whatever reason they want on the next round.shellie
    • also looks like they can't win awards anymore without hitting a diversity quota in front of and behind the Acevedo next year which i, for one, am for.shellie
    • Affirmative action is straight up racism.moldero
    • I'm sorry its effecting you. Try to think of the people who have been shut out of the industry. I feel like i'm one of them. There's two sides to this coin.shellie
    • *Acevedo = scenes.

      Sorry for the typos. still in bed typing in the dark.
      shellie
    • Shellie, It’s a tricky business to navigate because of the unions, but I am happy to help if you are interested in pursuing the film industryFawnDog
    • Thank you Fawn. I have been diligently trying to cross over from advertising &18 yrs of experie means nothing. I have no friends inside to hire me on trust.shellie
    • what's the best way to contact you?shellie
    • I'd also say affirmative action isn't racism moldy. how would we be able to compete against families that can l pay their unqualified children into opportunity?shellie
    • and people tend to hire people they feel they could be friends w/. ppl who look and think like they do. and entire groups are a shut out even if they're qualfieshellie
    • Regardless of who gets the job, they have to deliver and only skill can back that. Opportunity isn't always equal and unconscious bias needs to be challenged.shellie
    • Shellie I’m Fawndog at gmail dot com. Email me and we will chatFawnDog
    • emailed fawnshellie
    • I prefer meritocracy to diversity.pablo28
    • I was just perusing your folio, FD... I noticed plenty of Hollywood work and was wondering if you're dealing w/ the new rules of that world?PonyBoy
    • New Oscars' 'diversity rules'?
      https://www.nytimes.…
      You fall under 'Group B'... yes?
      PonyBoy
    • excuse me... 'Standard B'PonyBoy
    • I like how this notes thread is turning out. Best of luck fawn & shellieben_
    • I think I've made a new friend @ben. Fawn is quailty people.shellie
    • Not employing someone based on the colour of their skin racism. It’s very simple. Take them to court.Chimp
    • Am in film as well, funding is almost non existent if you're a (up and coming) white guy. I know a few who have walked away from the industry.inteliboy
    • @shells what I'm calling racism is the fact that affirmative action makes a company choose a hire primarily on the color of their skin which basing anything onmoldero
    • skin tone is wrong 100%, I agree, shit aint fair and shit needs to change 100% but a racist law isn't going to fix racism. love you shellzmoldero
    • Weird. These notes are both disturbing and heartening to read.Continuity
    • Ha this is the special interests. But being union... Kind of have to be in la... Can't really complain. Your special interest lost for u.deathboy
    • How many years and money spent against non union workers and firings through pressure. Your collective just changing with timesdeathboy
    • To maintain power. But that's me. I think unions as well as special Interest hirers are full of shitdeathboy
    • deathboy you think everything is full of shit. you disagree with everyone here and are a contrarian on everything. must be exhausting.inteliboy
    • This is as illegal as it comes. You're in a film industry union which was most likely created ages ago to fight this exact situation. Go to war.CyBrainX
    • whether racism or "balancing" it's worth going to war on it because it's your job and you're being unfairly singled out. No doubt some who've encountered theben_
    • same will blame minorities for what's happening to them, but it's clearly not as simple as that and clearly Fawn knows this.ben_
    • It's possible to protect one's career in the face of affirmative action without being a racist.ben_

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