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    "Nicholas Wade, one of the world's best science journalists, meticulously reviews the evidence for Covid's origin and concludes that a lab escape in Wuhan is the most likely explanation:"

    https://nicholaswade.medium.com/…

    source: https://twitter.com/JohnTierneyN…

    It's a long read the article, you can take the time (over 40 mins) and make up your mind later - if not, then it's a confirmation for some...

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    • Still... "most likely" doesn't mean it was.nb
    • @nb read the article and decide later the percent of "most likely" you agree withgrafician
    • nicholaswade at yahoo.com
      Is all we need to know.      palimpsest
    • "It’s important to note that so far there is no direct evidence for either theory." P5, S2monospaced
    • "So I have only clues, not conclusions, to offer." He flat out says he does not make a conclusion. Someone else said that.monospaced
    • @mono it is almost impossible after a year to find any definitive proof, but yeah here we are...grafician
    • just sayin', there is no conclusionmonospaced
    • It was Randy Marsh. He had sex with a bat on the rip with Mickey MousePhanLo
    • @mono not pushing an agenda, just sayin, the probability is not 0, more closer to 1 in time...grafician
    • and continuing, when it comes to communist countries, an example would be Chernobyl disaster led to the fall of the USSR - let's see if China makes itgrafician
    • lol, okaymonospaced
    • a list of times (we know of) a virus has escaped from a lab https://armscontrolc…kingsteven
    • Chernobyl, if it was funded by the CDC and the biggest European and American business relied on russian exploitation of workers and natural resources?kingsteven
    • i think it's incredibly likely it was lab release. i think it's likely we've had collected strains leaked from labs since the beginning of the pandemickingsteven
    • I’m on team labGnash
    • it's one of those things that are probable but makes no difference at this point, hopefully they create new safety protocols moving forward._niko
    • If it was actually proven it came from lab and Chinese gov covered it up, how would that not have massive consequences for politics, science etc?yuekit
    • Having said that I don't see how it will ever be proven unless there is a leak of documents showing the exact same virus existed in the lab.yuekit
    • The case this author and others put forward in an article like this is compelling when you read it in isolation. But the point I keep coming back to isyuekit
    • that the Wuhan market is not the only origin point other than the lab. The potential ways it could have arrived in Wuhan are basically endless. No one wasyuekit
    • looking for the virus prior to December 2019 after all.yuekit
    • yeah, i don't get the WHO's claim that it was unlikely after inspecting the WIV. there are leaks from BSL-3 labs all the time. no protocol is 100% effective.kingsteven
    • Yeah and notice the head of WHO even added some caveats saying they did not rule out lab leak. So the whole thing is about as clear as mud.yuekit
    • Obviously the lab was one vector where people were interacting with bats in proximity with Wuhan. But how many other vectors were there?yuekit
    • yeap, if track and trace requires 80% of close contacts to be effective it would be impossible to know for sure. but if it was an accidental release it wouldkingsteven
    • probably be identified and traced back to a market near the leak, and it would seem a convenient scapegoat for a country divided on traditional food/medicinekingsteven
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