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- shapesalad2
Over here in the UK we have lovely old churches going to ruin and then sold off to be converted into apartments.
@Chimp agree with your points.
I live near a nice looking church, big old grand thing, nice garden around it. Nice sense of space and light inside and a nice antique aroma inside.
I went to a few services, and it was really nice to connect with local people. Some decent free tea and coffee afterwards too. It was good to step out of the loop for a moment (Working / spending earnings in spare time) and reflect on macro things...
but... Jesus Chirst...
...literally was the problem. All the Jesus mumbo jumbo.
As soon as all that make believe nonsense came out about light and christ etc, I was done. And the whole flesh and blood of christ, a bit cannibalistic in sentiment isn't it? No ta to that.
If the Church ditched that crap, worked with Lex Friedman, A Huberman, Robert Salposky and all the other top scientists and thinkers of our age and past - to draft a 'bible' on how to live a good thoughtful and kind life, based on scientific research and thinking - just Hubermans podcasts in a bible like book would do it for me, chapter 14 how to sleep well etc, chapter 15, how to control depression etc... it would be awesome. Far better to preach that than a story about turning water into wine - if that was at all possible at a molecular level, some monk would be a billionaire by now and we'd be swimming in a Pacific ocean of fine Bordeaux.
If Sunday morning mass was a program of awesome organ music(these big old organs actually sound awesome when they pull out all the stops, no pun intended), a bit of singing(why not, it's kinda good for you), some yoga stretching, silent meditation, and some good old tea and biscuits and chit chat. I'd go every week!
If the local churches could become meeting points for locals, for youth and for all, to work together to improve their hood and help each other - without it all needing this Christ story from 2000 years ago, It'd attract more people.
If churches had more use during the week - such as co-working space + cafe + yoga space. etc. would be great. Id' certainly use my church if they put a few tables in between the pews and made it a donation based co working space. I actually went on a monday afternoon once to do some drawing on my iPad, the organist was practicing and sounded awesome. It was nice to sit in a big open hall with high ceilings, far nicer than an office space.
If they do all that, at least here in the UK, these churches have a chance of surviving. Else it's just a slow death, and a shame to silence those old church bells while converting the halls into apartments.
- My local church had a Ukraine food festival a few weeks ago to raise money, that was great.shapesalad
- I got to try ukrainian food for the first time and chat with some lovely Ukrainian people. Unfortunately not many people came, as you can sense people are putshapesalad
- off by the image of the church and what it represents, all the peado stuff. A shame there was too much food, they insisted I take a tonne of it home with meshapesalad
- You can almost sense that people are seeking churches. We find a regular cafe, or pub or sports club and go to that, but it's always lacking something.shapesalad
- Agreedscarabin
- The architecture is amazing. There should be something better to the replace religion that goes on inside them.Chimp
- Writing that modern bible is a great idea, although surely you argued with yourself whether to add Jordan Peterson to the list?Ianbolton
- Yupmonospaced
- I looked into getting a church up in Edinburgh a few years back. It's been an idle fantasy of mine ever since reading Espedair Street as a kidNairn
- All the churches in London I've idly entertained fantasies about have all gradually been turned into homes or apartments, the cunts.Nairn