Russia-Ukraine Invasion

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  • _niko9

    This war was meant to be a flex on Putin's part and it's going shitingly bad.

    On the one hand every nation should be in charge of its own destiny, allowed to make its own rules and govern how it sees fit, unfortunately in the case of theocratic dictatorships in the Middle East, banana republics in S America and N Korea and the likes, this comes at the expense of the liberty and happiness of its people especially the lower rungs of society.

    A just, fair prosperous and free new world order is what's needed, unfortunately, it can't be in the image of the shitshow that the US has become.

    So Putin was left with little choice in his mind other than to show the world the might of the soviet empire (complete with rusty tanks and state of the art equipment of the 1950's) and the he wouldn't bend the knee to the they/thems and the queers of the world, so war was the only option.

    And what would it cost him? best case scenario, they rolled into Kyev with little resistance and annexed all of Ukraine in a few days. Worst case scenario, the war drags on and he sends a million or so uneducated, drunkards and literal criminals to the slaughter, who needs those dregs anyway?

    But it's gone worse than that. way worse. He was afraid of NATO boxing him in and now that's exactly what he got, except with a willing participant to go toe to toe with him and actually USE those NATO weapons directly.

    All the alliances with South Africa, Belarus, N Korea, Serbia, Wakanda and fucking Disneyland will not help him.

    He's a laughing stock, a inept madman with a Napoleon complex. Unfortunately one who also has the ability to press a little red button and end us all.

    • election such?sted
    • This is why I'm pitching my tent in Canada. That country is poised to become a regional hegemon. Equal in size to the US and as abundant in natural resources,Khurram
    • not to mention more fresh water than any other nation on earth (a key commodity in the coming century).Khurram
    • Global warming that will render vast tracts of currently uninhabitable land ripe for exploitation and agricultural development.Khurram
    • Not to mention a government targeting 500,000 new immigratnts every year, our current population of 40 million can EASILY accomodate half a billion people,Khurram
    • if not a billion by 2200;Khurram
    • I invite all the slavic types, the refugees from the wars of Europe, not to mention (ater the reconquest of Palestine) the slavic types in Israel,Khurram
    • to come to Canada as compatriots, to cast aside your old-world identities and build your new Jerusalem here,Khurram
    • And make our neighbours to the south lick our boots.Khurram
    • And Europe, is destined to be nothing more than a zit on the arse cheek of Western Eurasia (back to historical norms)Khurram
    • Actually, scratch that - a newly militarized and emboldened Germany is set to dominate that continent - which has been the German destiny since Bismarck.Khurram
    • Then we'll see what'll happen to your peripheral ethno-linguistic nationalisms. Your imagined communities.Khurram
    • Unfortunately, the current hegemon, won't go down easy; at least not if that senile/belligerent cocksucker in the whitehouse has anything to do with it.Khurram
    • That grinning ghoul Joe mother fucking Brandon. FUCK HIMKhurram
    • Discuss.Khurram
    • Canada is gonna have problems in the Arctic. We don’t have enough of a navy to deal with the north border issues that are already starting to bubbleGnash
    • I'm sure we can buy some more de-commissioned leaky subs from some third world drug runners Gnash_niko
    • @Kuhrram Sounds great. How can I get an invite?instrmntl
    • @Gnash - we will build a navy god dammit! Global warming is going to place us in PRIME position for global domination :))Khurram
    • @instmintl - it's pretty easy right now. We have a points system for migration. 500,000 newcomers expected every year for the next decade. Come one come all!Khurram
    • how's your French??Khurram
    • @_niko - I gotta call you up on you equating South Africa with Wakanda or any other such imaginary non-entity, however.Khurram
    • Brazil, South Africa, India - 3 major Democratic powers from 3 continents; all sidling up to Russia.Khurram
    • "Western secular democratic values" vs "Tyranny" - mmm, not so much.Khurram
    • "Sidling up to" wow we're all terrified. Meanwhile > 300 tanks going to Ukraine from democratic countries.yuekit
    • https://twitter.com/…yuekit
    • But anyways, Canada should launch a special operation to annex Washington, Oregon and California from the USA.yuekit
    • lol. ok man. Who's "we" lolKhurram
    • At that point they will be positioned for global dominance under dictator Justin Trudeau. Control the tech industry, control the world.yuekit
    • There you go again with your simplistic narratives you simple little man.. "we" lolKhurram
    • Terrify who? You're the ones with the tanks. You yuekit, You "YOU" lol. What a fucking dumbass.Khurram
    • So you're American now? I seeeeeeKhurram
    • I used to read your posts in an Asian accent and I thought you were one of those Hong Kongers nostalgic for British Imperial rule.Khurram
    • Probably because your sentence structures are so simple. But you're a straight up Yank. Now that explains a lot.Khurram
    • In that case, I apologise for calling you a banana. Ha!Khurram
    • "your sentence structures are so simple"
      Kind of scraping the bottom of the barrel in terms of insults here huh?
      yuekit
    • And what's all this weird stuff about my background? We're all just human beings man. My nationality is planet Earth.yuekit
    • Your mistake is that much like Putin, Trump and other right-wing nationalists you start off trying to stereotype people and put them in categories.yuekit
    • Also this narrative about the Global South being on the side of Russia...
      https://pbs.twimg.co…
      yuekit
    • They all had a chance to support Russia directly on a vote over whether the invasion was wrong. Only 4 countries voted against this...Belarus, Syria, Eritreayuekit
    • and North Korea. Most countries in South America and Africa voted for the resolution condemning Russia.yuekit
    • interesting take KhurramIRNlun6
    • I'd argue the future looks more like global corporate tyranny marketed as democracy, but that doesn't necessarily change your theory.IRNlun6
    • With the rise of AI, quantum computing, gene editing, who knows what the world will look like in 5-10 years.IRNlun6
    • I also agree with Khurram that Canada will probably take over the world. But first Justin Trudeau will need to become dictator for life, crushing his enemiesyuekit
    • like he did with the Canadian trucker movement.yuekit
    • I don't agree on Canada taking over. Sorry but the dollar and the US aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Canada is certainly rich in resources though.IRNlun6
    • You're losing your cool you little NAFO terroristKhurram
    • PS The tech future belongs to China. Deal with it.Khurram
    • PPS Fuck Trudeau an'all. I hate him almost as much as I hate Biden. I hate all you centrist mother fuckers.Khurram
    • That's not cool man, you need to uncritically support the leader of your country just like you advocate for the citizens of Russia and China.yuekit
    • I'm starting to suspect you might not be a REAL Canadian...real Canadians support Trudeau without ever questioning this choice.yuekit
    • I mean look at his socks
      https://helios-i.mas…
      yuekit
    • It's very cool. I hate all you centrist motherfuckers.Khurram
    • You can't even argue anymore. You're hilarious.Khurram
    • a story on mass migration, Sri Lankans looking for better opportunities, NGOs promise EU passports, migrants are given Iraq passports...IRNlun6
    • Just wondering why the political systems you seem to think are good for developing world people don't apply to Canada.yuekit
    • migrants are dumped in Mosul, a balkanized wasteland at this point, with WFP blaring progressive propaganda about diversity...IRNlun6
    • WTF are you even talking about.Khurram
    • Start a thread you little dickhead and I'll jump in. You'll have no doubt about the "political systems" I advocate for.Khurram
    • all groups hate each other since they're in a wasteland, no common bonds aside from poverty, and no opportunities.IRNlun6
    • Sounds very depressing IRNlun6 but what's the takeaway? Some people are in tough situations, isn't it better to help them than not to?yuekit
    • @Khurram The point is if you favor a system more like China or Russia over liberal democracy, then you should think about what that would look like in your ownyuekit
    • Meh, go fuck yourself. You have no idea what I favour.Khurram
    • country. It's easy to idealize a place on the other side of the world you never lived in.yuekit
    • Russians are neoliberal capitalists just like you cunts.Khurram
    • "the point is" ... what a fucking tool.Khurram
    • Or on the other hand, if you don't think Russia's form of government is good why would you support them taking over part of Ukraine?yuekit
    • They have the same form of corrupt oligarchic capitalist governments lol You don't even have the basic education on these things to comment.Khurram
    • Here's something your lying media no longer reports on....Khurram
    • https://www.theguard…Khurram
    • Whoopsie daisy! Little green RAT.Khurram
    • It's not the same. Ukraine has had six presidents since 2000, Russia has had one (and one placeholder).yuekit
    • Another one of those pro-Russian media sources I can't stop posting LOL, The Guardian! hahahKhurram
    • Just an "actor" just an ordinary "everyman" with off-shore Panama accounts, nothing to see here. Move along. He's OUR MAN lolKhurram
    • It's very small time stuff compared to Putin
      https://www.icij.org…
      yuekit
    • Yes Ukraine had a lot of corruption but they're in the process of joining EU which requires reforming all of that.yuekit
    • Yeah i mean, you're comparing apples to oranges, it's not that big of a deal, come on, minors, just minor tings lolKhurram
    • Ukraine is moving in a democratic direction, Russia is moving in the direction of being a dictatorship.yuekit
    • https://c.ndtvimg.co…

      Such a glamorous wife he got lol
      Khurram
    • The neo-churchill! little green t-shirted RAT.Khurram
    • HAHAHAHA "reforming all of that" . Mmmm ok mate. You win this round you pesky yuekit!Khurram
    • I'm an international socialist. I wanna see the end of capitalism in all places everywhere. You have no idea what you're talking about.Khurram
    • Do you consider China socialist? What about the USSR?yuekit
    • True socialism cannot exist in a sea of rapacious capitalist states. We need a global socialist revolution. Workers of the world unite!Khurram
    • Start a thread. I don't have energy for you.Khurram
    • So the thing you advocate for doesn't exist anywhere, but you somehow know it's good. Hmmmyuekit
    • 'Ukraine is moving in a democratic direction' is that why Green Shirt Guy outlawed all the left-leaning political parties and threatens their members with jail?face_melter
    • https://twitter.com/…
      Which 'democratic' direction is this? Almost a full house lol
      face_melter
    • The SBU have been murdering opposition politicians. Another inconvenient "truth" their media refuses to report on.Khurram
    • You're attacking Ukraine for banning pro-Russian political parties, during a time when Russia is invading them? lolyuekit
    • Here's an example of a banned political party
      https://en.wikipedia…)
      yuekit
    • lolKhurram
    • "During the Russian military invasion of Ukraine, a number of functionaries of the Nashi party cooperated with the Russian troops and headed theyuekit
    • military-civilian administrations in the territories occupied by the Russians."yuekit
    • ^^ Little NAFO terrorist over here quoting wikipedia lolKhurram
    • This is one of the members of the party, they are now running what's left of Mariupol after it was destroyed by Russia.yuekit
    • https://twitter.com/…yuekit
    • And remember this is what happened to Mariupol
      https://www.youtube.…
      yuekit
    • So on one hand you defend Russia's invasion and mass murder, but it's also an outrage if Ukraine punishes anyone collaborating with the invading army.yuekit
    • Seems like a difficult needle Ukrainians have to thread, to keep you happy over there in Canada. Of course Ukraine is more democratic than Russia,yuekit
    • the fact that "green shirt guy" got elected out of nowhere with a totally new party shows this. Most of the government in Ukraine is younger people in their 40syuekit
    • whereas Russia is run by a bunch of aging former KGB officials and led by the same person for two and a half decades.yuekit

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