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- _niko5
probably been posted a bunch of times but how can a sane and logical person argue against this?
- I had the same reflection about religions.
I can not believe that in 2017 people are still so much into "religions".ApeRobot - People find comfort in communities that share the same values and experience. Picking apart a religion from a materialist perspective is missing the point....Morning_star
- ..I've grown to appreciate Sam Harris and his podcasts and books however his arguments often fail to embrace the positive experiences those with faith have.Morning_star
- Those community values and comforts can be had without organized religion too.monospaced
- Yep. Your point?Morning_star
- Quite. And yours?detritus
- OK. Dissecting a fundamentally flawed system of faith from a moral and materialist perspective is largely pointless. We can all sit here and pat Sam on the...Morning_star
- ..on the back at how articulate and logical he is. The fact of the matter is, is that his opponents wont ever change because their systems of faith aren'tMorning_star
- ...logical. They have value to the faithful that cannot be quantified in material terms. It's just Atheist porn, and not the good stuff ;)Morning_star
- One of my biggest regrets for my country is that the CoE became a toothless outlet for clappy crappy sub-evangelists and doddering pensioner hold outs.detritus
- ..because I agree with your faith in the peripheral social benefits, for which atheism and blunt humanism have no replacement for.detritus
- That said, I find it weird when otherwise agnostic Americans (for eg.) go to their local church for the social aspects.. that just doesn't compute for me.detritus
- There's a few QBners over the years who I know aren't religious who go along, basically to keep familial and local social peace, as far as I can tell.detritus
- saying that atheists have no "replacement for peripheral social benefits" is pretty narrow minded ... religion has absolutely monopoly on sense of communitymonospaced
- absolutely *no* monopolymonospaced
- It's like any tribe, membership affords certain privileges.Morning_star
- @ mono - who's claiming that?Morning_star
- I did. Show me where there's a replacement that compels the non-religious to a higher calling than their immediate selves, mono. Please, show me. Nationalism?detritus
- There isn't one and we probably won't have a well-enough educated society for one to naturally form for whole generations.detritus
- You get the same sense of love, community and a sense of belonging with friends, sports teams (both playing and following) bands, military, movies and tv shows_niko
- You find comfort and comroderie with like minded people sharing the same interests and passions._niko
- what _niko said ... take away all the belief in higher powers, and you still have humans, love, kinship, community, and all the good things that come with itmonospaced
- there doesn't have to be an official doctrine replacement with a label, like religion, it's just how people are naturally before they're told to follow a bookmonospaced
- I just find it offensive whenever someone questions an atheist about morality or kinship or happiness, as if they can't possibly have any without religionmonospaced
- I love you all. I think this is a good discussion. Cheers and happy monday.monospaced
- @detritus, simple answer is love and humanity ... I don't need anyone telling me to be nice to others, and the idea that anyone WOULD scares the fuck out of memonospaced
- I partly agree with you Mono. I think all humans have the potential to be positive contributors to society. However there is nothing that compels them...Morning_star
- I'm more thinking about how to address the root causes of 'the tragedy of the commons' to compel the greater unwashed to act outwith their own self-interest.detritus
- because as much as I know that thoughtful, considered atheists can act that way, my experience is that many people are lazy, hateful cretins.detritus
- ...God(s), as a higher authority, used to inhabit this position. What compels the atheist to act charitably?Morning_star
- How can society itself compel people who don't feel part of it? I believe, sadly, that there will be need for a 'higher influence' for a long time yet.detritus
- or, let's say 'higher structure'.detritus
- in the world's history of experience, there's no religious group that can claim they aren't also made up of some seriously hateful cretins as wellmonospaced
- The idea that you think that religion is the primary compulsion to be thoughtful, positive contributors to society is so naive, so shortsighted, it's offensive.monospaced
- I'm not trying to be mean here, but by that logic, there's no reason for a religious person to be nice to someone that they don't share the same beliefs as.monospaced
- And we know that isn't true.monospaced
- I'm not being absolutist here, I'm thinking of the bottom 80%. My position allows you to be a good-natured atheist, mono. No need to spack out.detritus
- And I'd wager that the majority of ardent religionists around the world DO indeed favour their own before those of competing belief systems.detritus
- btw, my position here was in regards to the loss of the CoE which was/is about as agnostic a religion as one could get...detritus
- Sorry, I just realised that I'm tripping over M_S's posts.. along much the same lines, amusingly...detritus
- @mono. I don't think anyone is denying the myriad problems that Religions have. Is the atheist perspective of right and wrong entirely arbitrary?Morning_star
- "There will come a time when people will not tolerate sound teaching. They will collect teachers who say what they want to hear because they are self-centered."pablo28
- Atheism is just about the (non)existence of god, it doesn't say anything about right and wrong. But there is plenty of room for philosophy of life beyond that.yuekit
- yes, exactlymonospaced
- "What compels the atheist to act charitably?"
you're kidding, rightscarabin - Religious people do more for the poor, 3rd world countries, and the needy than any anti religious dirt back.Hayoth
- It's always liberals disguised as totalitarian communists who bash people who believe something different.Hayoth
- @scarabin. Yes and no. It's an interesting question. Look at it from the experience of Russia. A country that has rejected God under Communism. There is a...Morning_star
- ...generation that has been brought up in absence of god and this is reflected in society and it's seemingly self centred focus. ..Morning_star
- The point being, this is an example of an Atheist ethic influencing society for a whole generation and the results don't look too good.Morning_star
- Weak point, mostly assumption. Russia is barely 13% atheist, and their economic social situation could never be attributed to one factor, like faith, alone.monospaced
- it's not the 'atheist ethic' per se, rather the lack of a replacement for the Deifically-obliged social structures encouraged by religions.detritus
- Japan has close to 40% convinced atheist population. Just sayin'monospaced
- But a significantly more homogenised and culturally-formed population. I have Calvinist belief bases, to a degree - doesn't mean I'm a religionode.detritus
- I had the same reflection about religions.
- scarabin6
The United States Revokes Scientology’s Tax-Exempt Status
http://abcnews.com.co/united-sta…
fuck yeah!
- finally!monospaced
- The investigation, along with an extensive audit, found the group to be a “criminal operation with a sole purpose of making money”.PonyBoy
- Sadly if you look at the bottom of the article, they've regained their tax-exempt status as of 4/28/16pixellette
- ^lame!PonyBoy
- oh, dang. sorry for the old articlescarabin
- Ridiculous. We do show the world that money=power=more money.formed
- Sweet!moldero
- awe shitmoldero
- lol. it's still getting upvotesscarabin
- abcnews.com.co is not abc newsdbloc
- bah http://www.snopes.co…scarabin
- Finally. As a kid who grew up in scientology, I can verify it is bat shit bananas, full stop.shellie
- @shellie your parents were members?dbloc
- whatthefunk4
A recent LinkedIn post
- Desmond... that son of a bitch...PonyBoy
- the dull minded christians are very gullibleutopian
- Probably aliens.monospaced
- Jesus Christ... sorry, I mean Desmond.5timuli
- Fucking hell ... the usual race to the bottom on LinkedIn took a decidedly even more stupid turn.Continuity
- I like how the first commenter is blurred out in the first comment, but not the second.elahon
- The OP should be named and shamed. This kind of abject stupidity shouldn't go un-punished.Continuity
- Well it's obviously real guys because I can see it with my brainset
- Jesus last words on the cross: Matthew: “My God why hast thou forsaken me?” Luke: “Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit.” John: “It's finished.”BustySaintClaire
- to find a skeleton fully intact like that is next to impossible. Especially one that old.dbloc
- @continuity: the OP is that Amy H Macar person. Look at the blurred version of her pic =)zarkonite
- moIdero4
lol
- she's WAY scarier than trump. holy crap.Gnash
- (chunk's still an idiot)Gnash
- Well prayer (intention) can effect reality, quantum physics is beginning to prove that. Nothing to do with God though, luv..set
- affect*set
- (also I'm not saying that their prayers changed the results)set
- http://www.worldpeac…set
- /full yurimonset
- ok, because for a second it sounded like you were saying their prayers helped :)monospaced
- also, get ready for more of this type when Trump starts filling the swampmonospaced
- it's frightening how empowered these wing nuts feel nowGnash
- haha @ filling the swamp, Totally!
Christy, Guliani and all those goons, holy shit, im still trippin the fuck outmoIdero - ISIS prayers have been answered too.monoboy
- praise our lordApeRobot
- These people praise their god for their own glory.robthelad
- Lucifer our lord.pango
- Lucifordset
- Pray for the god of dollarsi_was
- watch the very end, it's the best partmoIdero
- Dear God...that is fucking terrifying.BusterBoy
- PhanLo11
- hydro7410
- i_monk3
- done bother covering up your nuts, she's already covering her eyesmoldero
- this belongs on the Politics thread, no?robotron3k
- What does the "R" stand for?utopian
- Nailed it. http://vignette3.wik…terry_cloth
- Team Rocket from Pokemon?mekk
- I'm not sure who's more deludedset
- I'm really not 100% sure WTF I'm looking at, here.Continuity
- aspirine ad?sureshot
- prepare for trouble_niko
- To protect my nuts from observation...
to unite all peoples within our nation...see_thru - oh i see, there are also nuns in the picturesarahfailin
- PhanLo11
- PhanLo8
- https://i.imgur.com/…PhanLo
- whobedatcrackautopian
- just like tom sawyerdoesnotexist
- flol at that pharoah one. that can't be genuine? it can. of course it can.Nairn
- Ramanisky29
- pedo ring and terrorist cells combined into onemonospaced
- God, Gun & Grits...a GOP way of life.utopian
- ^ the 3G’sRamanisky2
- hydro7412
- yurimon-1
- Agnosticism FTW.detritus
- Wow can't argue with that #NAILEDITyuekit
- wat? it's up to people who believe it exist to provide proof.
fuck it. if you can't proof ManBearPig doesn't exist. then it exist.pango - I dont see how you can expect others to be responsible for proof of belief but dismiss your own responsibility.yurimon
- Alienism?Ianbolton
- The fact simply remains that there is no evidence God exists except in people's faith. That is their burden to prove. Atheists are keeping it simple.monospaced
- No need to disprove something if there's no evidence for it existing in the first place.monospaced
- Agree with mono. Do you need proof that you don't have a leprechaun sitting on your shoulder?set
- Unless they are trying to proselytise you than they hav no reason to prove anything to you. Faith isn't based on burden of proof, this isn't a courtroom.gilgamush
- You can tell me that you worship leprechauns. what right does any of us have to try to undermine something somebody draws comfort and strength from. Get over yOgilgamush
- Yourselfgilgamush
- you're right. maybe folks draw comfort and strength from atheism. what right does yuri have trying to undermine that?scarabin
- I don't agree that atheists are keeping it simple though. They're making a thing out of it. Keeping it simple is the rest of us that simply say...set
- I don't agree that atheists are keeping it simple though. They're making a thing out of it. Keeping it simple is the rest of us that simply say...set
- "who knows"set
- how does it make sense to find strength in the absence of something. find strength in logic and rationalism. ok. but there has been a false dichotomy betweengilgamush
- If you are not 100% sure god doesn't exist you are not an atheist but rather an agnostic (as detritus stated earlier). Y'alls arguing over logical fallacies.ORAZAL
- faith and reason. these two things are apples and oranges.i for one think it's hogwash, the forces of math are the higher power. omnipotent?check. infallable?gilgamush
- check. but if somebody else holds a spaghetti monster in high regard, be happy for them and their ability to feel in their heart that greater purposegilgamush
- it's not about the absence of something, it's about having a system of thought, a frameworkscarabin
- i'm not atheist either, but yuri's post is proselytizing his views to others, which you vilifiedscarabin
- i would say that participating in this thread is opting in to a conversation in which beliefs are placed under scrutiny.scarabin
- Athiesm vs Theism = lulz.nb
- Yuri, prove to me that a tiny unicorn isn't flying around Neptune this exact moment. You can't do it? Ok, then a tiny unicorn is flying around Neptune.iCanHazQBN
- The tiny unicorn is my God. If you think that notion stupid, I don't care. I believe it's true because you can't disprove it.iCanHazQBN
- Now I'll try to push my unicorn belief onto others and maybe kill in the name of it.iCanHazQBN
- ^ As ridiculous as you might see this.. it's equally as ridiculous as how atheists see all religions.iCanHazQBN
- can't believe people thinks that there really are a God. We're all flesh and bones and we're not more important than a plant.Ben99
- I think prob by logic alone atheism would fall to the bottom of the barrel behind other religions. I think agnostics more logical in their approach inyurimon
- in my opinion. for the simple fact of trying to claim proof. atheism is strong on proof doesnt exist. yet it cant define what proof would look like.yurimon
- could proof be unlocking the pattern of nature in how it creates? is pattern of nature proof.?yurimon
- prob pattern of nature and life creation alone prob raises the statistic probability of a creator by a good amount. but not in the way atheism would interpretyurimon
- There is a video of a hot ass getting shot with gummi bears and you're arguing here over some god..mekk
- it's in slow motion dude!mekk
- nobody is arguing. this is a conversation about faulty atheist logic.yurimon
- gummi bears n ass are a dime a dozen. get over it.yurimon
- Saying that "because there are patterns in nature, then god exists" is like saying "because there are rainbows, then my magic unicorn exists."iCanHazQBN
- I dont know how you make these analogies. patterns in nature is similar to observation. for example you havent met your great great great grand father from 200yurimon
- years ago but nobody claims he doesnt exist. it would be silly for people to argue that you just showed up from nowhere or a unicorn shat you out of its bongyurimon
- hole. nah sayin?yurimon
- Well years ago you could get killed saying he doesn't exist.pango
- pango. thats not the discussion here. stay on point. stalins or maos killed lots.yurimon
- I haven't met my grandpa from 200 years ago, but I know he existed because we have an understanding of the results of human mating.iCanHazQBN
- There's lots of evidence to back up the idea that when humans mate, they create more humans. Meanwhile, there's simply nothing to suggest that some overlordiCanHazQBN
- created us and is watching us, and is judging us.iCanHazQBN
- The audacity of a god is ridiculous. He creates us (flawed), then gets mad and sends us to hell when we fuck up. He's getting angry at his own creation.iCanHazQBN
- What a joke of a premise. And what a waste of time believing in something(one) so incredibly juvenile and petty.iCanHazQBN
- doesnt mean its in the form you say it is. i'm not mentioning the bible here you bible thumper.yurimon
- means creation comes from something as a chain or link.yurimon
- It's akin to a little boy putting various insects into a glass box, and sitting back and watching them in some sick little game. We are god's experiment???iCanHazQBN
- i dont see that at all. it merly is a chain of creation going back to an original event that had another event to create it. whether its a force or conciousnesyurimon
- you see the link of creation in nature. what is the probability that it stops at some point where no one created something..yurimon
- Before the Big Bang? That's the point where atheists and scientists might say "We don't know yet, but we are working on it".iCanHazQBN
- ...And where religious people pretend to know it all (if they even acknowledge the big bang at all).iCanHazQBN
- And where is this rule you made up that everything has to come from something?? That's cute.iCanHazQBN
- So if your god exists, and everything has to have a creator, then there must be a god that created the god you worship... and so on into infinity.iCanHazQBN
- ^ That's why the notion of everything having to be created by something falls flat.iCanHazQBN
- i dont think the creation of this reality really has to do with religion. atheism n religion are to me the same construct of bullshit.yurimon
- Atheism is simply not believing in gods. It is the default, the zero.iCanHazQBN
- just because lets say a force created physical reality doesnt mean it has human form. we are talking probability strictly from observation of the chain of creatyurimon
- ionyurimon
- You are an atheist yourself. An atheist to all of the other gods (except the one you believe in).iCanHazQBN
- I'm an atheist, just like you, except I believe in just ONE less god than you do.iCanHazQBN
- Atheism is a religion like "off" is a television channel.monospaced
- Worry less about judeo Christian God and worry more about a higher power. Recognize that you are not in control of everything and that there are in fact powersgilgamush
- Bigger than you that controlled you. Or math sciencegilgamush
- Its a religion. agnostics are more atheist then you. something created by something then everything created by no one. yeah big logical loop whole right there.yurimon
- It is egocentric beyond fathom to propose that God's conciousness is similar to our own. Stop propping that up as some counterpoint to spirituality.gilgamush
- its belief even if you claim absence of one. if you said you have no mind then i would believe the "off is a television channel" fallacy.yurimon
- your mind is full of beliefs n thoughts. belief in a god or belief there is non. its still takes up the same space. its not off like a channel its on but a difyurimon
- channelyurimon
- Athiesm is a reaction to having a bad experience with organized religion. It is stating an absence of something, therefore it's not something in of itself, so ngilgamush
- Athiesm is a reaction to having a bad experience with organized religion. It is stating an absence of something, therefore it's not something in of itselfgilgamush
- I agree to some extent. I dont blame because most people get the exoteric version, plus religion in most part is corrupted. atheism a corrupted idea also.yurimon
- I've been to atheist events. seems these people are angry fckrz.yurimon
- My point being that you can't go around demanding that people provide proof in matters of theology. Not condusive to a productive dialougegilgamush
- Humans need to feel subordinate to something. Atheists experience stress and anger at the chaos and ignore the obvious order of things. Find your higher power.gilgamush
- Doesn't have to be a father figure sadistic dude with a beard in the clouds neither.gilgamush
- I dont think i have that need though.yurimon
- I know you don't. Those last few comments weren't directed at you in particulargilgamush
- More directed at mono and icanhazgilgamush
- I know mono is left brain for sure. how he works in the art field beats me. fo shizle.yurimon
- Atheism is NOT a reaction to a bad religious experience. That's just retarded. Everyone's born atheist until they are taught otherwise.monospaced
- One does not become Christian without meeting one. Or Hindu, or Buddhist. But atheism is a true default, like it or not.monospaced
- Atheists embrace the natural order of things more than any other group, and humans don't have to be subordinate to another poiwer. That makes no sense.monospaced
- And yes, I can demand proof, simply because the claims that god exists, or prayer works, are very widespread, but have never been backed up.monospaced
- you can demand doesnt make you smart to. I can jump off a bridge to. but its not common sense n i wont do it.yurimon
- just because me me me demands doesnt make align with truth. sounds childish. Some how you are still subordinate. let me guess taxes n money is your god likeyurimon
- everyone elses.yurimon
- Mono clearly has never had a kid. Children find sentiment and meaning in everthing. They get jaded and reactionary later in life. Athiesm is a reaction.gilgamush
- Tell me what you believe not what you don't believegilgamush
- Mono can't differentiate between organized religion and spirituality. Error error does not computegilgamush
- Your a good kid mono, not out to disparage you, I'm more interested in what it is you do believe you in because athiesm isn't a belief, its a statement of disbegilgamush
- Disbeliefgilgamush
- attempt to disbelief, via a belief.yurimon
- I certainly can differentiate, and I am spiritual in my own way, trust me. I stand in awe of the universe, which I believe came about naturally, on its ownmonospaced
- But I can guarantee my atheism is not a reaction to religion, and there are millions of atheists that would say the same. Most come to it in deep realization.monospaced
- I understand children find sentiment and awe in everything, but unless you tell them it's "god," that would not be the default for them. They also grow up.monospaced
- I am going to my spiritual place this weekend, with family. Connecting with nature is my kneeling at the alter, it is my connection with something greater.monospaced
- and it's all real, here, non-judging, all giveth and taketh in a constant game of natural equilibrium, and we are merely a tiny piece of a huge thingmonospaced
- And I'm an atheist. I hope that helps you understand where I'm coming from, gilgamush and yurimon.monospaced
- What I'm explaining and experience requires no belief, from my point of view, but that does not mean my spirituality is less than anyone else'smonospaced
- my atheism it hoyts... listen why dont prove how smart you really are by helping my qbn copy questine.yurimon
- :Pyurimon
- Huh? Mono, I can't help but pick up on your hang up on the big g word. What's the difference between you're perception of the greater meaning and thegilgamush
- Greater power that represents that bigger picture brogilgamush
- whats the diff?! Mine includes no god ! Lol. Really?monospaced
- 100+ notes people, wtfpinkfloyd
- Let all come together help monos healing of his circumstantial beliefyurimon
- atheism is farther from circumstantial than any religion that existsmonospaced
- Agnosticism is the only natural resting place for the intelligent mind.nb
- Well aren't you arrogantgilgamush
- its easier to agree with agnosticism from the point of logic that atheist are attempting to use in attempt to justify their stance.yurimon
- I agree. It's a less reactionary stance. More of a statement of belief than a statement of disbeliefgilgamush
- moldero4
- This is retarded. The article carries on like Creationism is a valid debate, constantly referring to the common arguments. Are there any creationists on here?Morning_star
- A long time ago there was a guy on here who would do nothing but argue about creationism.yuekit
- I guess he's not around any more. Shame ;)Morning_star
- the scientific process does'nt work in terms of disproof. prove the validity of a theory and is precludes other theories. disproving things is a waste of timegilgamush
- makes no sense to try to prove the absence of something. similar to a double negative, its not a productive line of reasoninggilgamush
- I think Gramme believes in creationism.iCanHazQBN
- Great... Not another friggin salad...pango
- lolinteliboy
- Science did prove the validity of the theory that the planet is very old. Not a waste of time at all, especially when disproving religious nut job theories.monospaced
- I agree that creationism has zero scientific merit and evolution is basicly fact. My disagreement with your theological stance mono is that you are invested ingilgamush
- Debunking other peoples faith. Leave them alone bro, ignorance is bliss. They can have a perfectly full life without ever considering ceolacanths etcgilgamush
- first, I have no theological stance since I don't believe in god(s), and I am certainly not invested in debunking anyone's myths.monospaced
- you seem to think I was the one who is posting these thingsmonospaced
- you clearly have me mistaken for someone else around heremonospaced
- OK, that's fine. My original point being that science has no need to react to the folks who are speaking from a place of faith as apose to a position of evidencgilgamush
- Science and faith go wonderfully hand in hand.breadlegz
- All the animosity towards organized religion I see in here is very misplaced. People have done alotta nasty shit in gods name, blah blah, that's irrelevant.gilgamush
- Bottom line is that if someone out there derives personal strength from a belief you view as irrational, you have no business trying to sway them otherwisegilgamush
- dude, you were the one who posted the article about the nigerian, and don't even try to imply that wasn't supposed to be ridiculing.monospaced
- but I agree, the scientific community should never have to defend itself against myth-based agendas and ideas.monospaced
- Evolution is still a theory right? It hasn't been proven nor disproven. We are presented with findings and reasoning, but no facts. Just sayin.robthelad
- Evolution is a scientific theory, which is as close to proof as can be achieved. The evidence is overwhelming, and almost nothing exists to disprove it.monospaced
- The facts supporting it fill entire rooms of papers and physical evidence all around the world. It's a staggeringly huge amount of facts.monospaced
- Do you know how the first organism evolved from rain on rock, billions and billions of years ago? And how "nothing" exploded to make a big bang?robthelad
- P.S. I'm not a Troll. I like the idea of creationism, and evolution, and how churches have "incorporated" the theory into the bible teachings.robthelad
- Nobody knows for certain the exact process of how life began, but there are some very strong scientific models that aim at a real understanding of its origins.monospaced
- and i think it's admirable that mankind seeks the answer, and doesn't give up and just say, "ah, some omnipotent invisible power made it, so no bother looking."monospaced
- Ha, I've seen that banned TED talk that seemed quite convincing, but of course, Psychedelics were involved in the revelation. I like questions.robthelad
- what was that banned ted talk about?moldero
- this one?
https://www.youtube.…moldero - Yep. TED looked proper dicks after banning that.Morning_star
- cool thanks MS :)moldero
- have you watched it Moldero?Morning_star
- not yet, though i did download it to watch latermoldero
- Chimp2
I visited the Hagia Sofia last week, amazing place but there was fucking carpet everywhere. My parents would have loved it.
- Allah must be a boomer.Chimp
- wow it's been turned back into a working mosque i guess. when i was there it was full of scaffolding, dark and had a stone floorhans_glib
- Probably to cover over whatever Christian floor decor they had originallyNairn
- Yep it’s a working mosque now. When they have prayers they cover up the images of Jesus.Chimp
- Fucking colonizersGnash
- only half the size of petersdome in rome i think...neverscared
- St. Peters is amazingformed
- Morbid as fuck, but still amazingformed
- corbusier wrote if michelangelos plans for peters would all have been build it would be amazeballs... some bishops with authority of building management fuckedneverscared
- it... still outstanding of course.neverscared
- Carpet.. you all know my thoughts on carpet... don't tempt me into a rant like this...shapesalad
- Wrong thread; belongs in Architecture of The Day threadKrassy
- we need mono to pitch in and say houses of worship are, I dunno, no better than disco toilets and how a synagogue killed his dog and shit in his fridge.face_melter
- LolGnash
- heaven for bedbugsmilfhunter
- scarabin8
Scientists establish link between religious fundamentalism and brain damage
- https://i.imgur.com/…utopian
- lolmonospaced
- HahaYakuZoku
- Don’t even have to click the link the agree...hydro74
- ApeRobot7
- all evidence ever presented or discovered points to this here being the entire truth of the mythmonospaced
- ^ lol what?garbage
- The widely believed "truth of the myth" is that the Second Temple Jewish leaders (Pharisees) were really getting nervous about this..garbage
- ..upstart, borderline anarchist Jesus guy that really appealed to the lower class because he was actually pointing out societal issues.garbage
- He created a cult following, and it was deemed so dangerous that the was executed on petty charges.garbage
- Joseph of Arimathea was Sanhedrin (high Jewish legal congress) that was a secret believer that Jesus was the Son of God.garbage
- He asked Pontius Pilate for permission to clean Christ's body, and then he and his cult sleeper cell buried it in another place to maintain the myth.garbage
- A myth to keep a counter-tyrannical dream alive. Historical Jesus was actually pretty bad-ass.garbage
- /rant from a guy that taught classes at churches and almost majored in theology.garbage
- cool, so he wasn't resurrected at all :)monospaced
- Of course not. I've been an atheist since I was 18, and I just find it strange that most atheists go kneejerk and militant..garbage
- Snape killed dumbledorescarabin
- ..in uninformed and embarrassing ways, much like Xians. Nothing more annoying than evangelical atheists.garbage
- lol okay, except I was just fucking around and you got all militant AF ;)monospaced
- Certainly not embarrassed here, as a lifelong atheist myself. But thanks for the history lesson. So who claimed he rose from the dead?monospaced
- Dude, I don't know if it's your temper but you fucking misread things in a comical way all the time. Spit and foam. You even argue with the bobos.garbage
- All I was saying is second wave atheist tend to adopt the traits of the same religions they reject, and they make normal atheists look bad.garbage
- Nothing I said was militant, and sorry for the history lesson and an educated rebuttal to your "entire truth of the myth" prompt.garbage
- Go to one of your go-to responses. Call me retarded or spin off on some weird rant that ends in an emoji or the joys of fatherhood.garbage
- @scara A-fuckin-men.garbage
- Dude relax. My comment was not militant. It was just a joke about a joke.monospaced
- I thanked you for the history lesson! I am not mocking you. Nor would I call you names.monospaced
- I also have never ended a “rant” with an emoji or joys of fatherhood. Not even sure what that means?monospaced
- Not sure where the temper thing came from. I certainly didn’t come from a place of anger or anything. But you seemed rather bothered by my comment.monospaced
- that's way too many notes for this post lolpango
- @mono lol I thought you were being salty, apologies.garbage
- @pango But have you heard the good news?garbage
- God is not real?pango
- lol, not to me nor you.garbage
- I, for one, appreciate the history lesson. That's why I keep coming back to QBN, you never know what you'll learn.formed
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- monospaced8
"Religious people are more tolerant of different viewpoints than atheists"
Especially if those viewpoints involve the highest order and sexually molesting little boys.
- You are shit at critical thinking.
< Reductio ad absurdum.Morning_star - "You are shit at critical thinking."
~ believes in all knowing being in sky watching him masturbatemoldero - "You are shit at critical thinking."
really? REALLY?? R E A L L Y ? ?moldero - No i don't. You have no idea what i believe and it shows.Morning_star
- but Morning_star knows what everyone else believes.moldero
- No I don't. Why would you think that?Morning_star
- get to work manmoldero
- Sorry moldero, you've lost me here. Not going to bash mono, but morn_star's totally right here - <this is a vastness away from a critically-considere... responsedetritus
- Hey it’s just one example. The Catholic Church knee about its widespread practice for decades or centuries and covered it up.monospaced
- But the idea that atheists aren’t tolerant is equally as far from rational argument as this.monospaced
- Nobody is saying that. The premis here is that those with some kind of faith are more tolerant than those without faith. Simple.Morning_star
- Yes. This photo shows people of faith are more tolerant.pango
- So, having faith in supernatural beings makes someone more tolerant? Lol, that's some funny shit.monospaced
- It's almost like you've been shown some scientific truth but are refusing to acknowledge it because of your distorted beliefs. Have you heard...Morning_star
- ..this theory about a Flat Earth?Morning_star
- I am respectfully acknowledging this is roughly scientific. But this kid isn't a professor, his sample was miniscule, and he's Catholic.monospaced
- I am simply questioning this study in its isolation, proposing it might not be as concretely conclusive as you seem to be treating itmonospaced
- I don't think it's concrete, it needs to be replicated. However what it does use is the scientific method.Morning_star
- You are shit at critical thinking.
