Hooked On Vice
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- hektor9110
oh wow this got out of hand quickly.....
- moldero5
Pr2 is "in the biz", oops my bad sorry, I guess ill go back to jacking off or whatever it is guys who aren't "in the biz" do. But guess what? I'm in the "biz" too mother fucker. I directed a crew of 30 for a featured documentary that I'm also editing, and since your in the biz, you should know what "featured" means. But who gives a shit & that doesn't mean fuck-all, its probably gonna suck anyway! haha, but that reminds me of a fellow musician I know who once told someone "you don't know anything about listening to music because your not a musician." Sooo, music is only for other musicians then? Documentaries aren't only for people "in the biz" their for everyone, Ill give you that you know more about how to make one than the average guy, but your opinion about a documentary is just that, 1 mans opinion, and its as valid as anyone's opinion about that documentary whether in the biz or not. If you read what I wrote properly you'd see I said nothing about Vice being top quality, I was talking about critics and others opinions and how meaningless they are, and yes even yours.
Sorry if you feel attacked, I wasn't attacking you, but its understandable how someone who attacks others by b@shing their IQ just because he likes a series of documentaries that you don't happen to like can feel defensive. Word of advice from a guy who jacks off all day, don't be such a dick to people you don't even know. if someone likes something you don't like for whatever reason, fuckin great!, do you want to live in a world with a bunch of jaded pr2 clones running around? or live in a world where everyone is different and has their own opinions that you can learn from?If I ever get as jaded as you dude I'll quit.
- robotron3k-1
Vice TV is like reality show, bad journalism, and Hunter S, Thompson type wannabees having a go at it. It's all kind of immature, but that's the fun of it, it's mindless but at times interesting...
- ********0
Isn't that the hipster magazine?
They have TV too?
WOW!
The World has a new meaning...- google has email!sine
- do they? like google@gmail.com?********
- nb0
One thing I can't stand about Vice is the way they put themselves (i.e. their brand) into most of their "news" stories. Now, instead of a headline being a quick summary of the story, it's always "We Interviewed ______ About ________."
Some might argue that in modern journalism we want the writer to be a part of the story, but let's be clear: this is not about the journalist's voice. Rather, it's about Vice, the brand. "We did this", "We spoke with...", etc.
A basic rule of good journalism is that you don't make the story about your own organization, unless absolutely necessary. It's partially clickbait, and partially a constant reminder that Vice is a brand and you should get behind them.
For the New York Times, they have a Media desk that will write about the Times' place in the modern world, journalism, etc. This is somewhat different, as it is relative to the state of media.
But, imagine the headline on the front of New York Times "We Interviewed The Police Chief of the Town Where A Massacre Happened Last Night." UGH.
http://www.vice.com/en_ca/search…
^97,600 results.- If they are funding all of their expeditions themselves, I think it't a good strategy to brand their 'news' stories. Thats what made them successful initially.lambsy
- ^ Good for business. Sucks for journalism.nb
- Every private news agency in the world "funds" their expeditions themselves.nb
- Their owned by Viacom...they're corporate like all the other outletsAl_dizzle
- _me_0
I've always felt the people who read or watch Vice actually work at Vice.
- _niko0
used to go on for do's and don't mostly, now vice is super depressing and poorly written
- futuremongolian0
I can't handle Vice any more, I find their brand voice, which they insist on inserting into everything they do irritating and unnecessary.
- hmm, would love to edit my punctuation, but alas.futuremongolian
- face_melter0
I enjoy reading Motherboard - their tech/science/culture offshoot. The writing style can be sometimes over-familiar and sloppy but the type (and number) of subjects they report on makes up for it. Adrianne Jeffries' work at The Verge was the only thing I paid any interest to, so I was happy to see her escape that shitpile sausagefest of a site.
- autoflavour4
high water mark right here..