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- PhanLo6
- the inertia book was made in 2001, 100% digital works printed, not a single page what isn't a piece of art.sted
- reminds me of fightclub movie - Sticking Feathers Up your Butt Does Not Make You A Chicken-neverscared
- Ramanisky24
- KFMutopian
- Was the prompt 'constipated actors'?webazoot
- Yes .. especially ArnieRamanisky2
- A-Ha!Krassy
- Ramanisky21
- Bladerunner tech!PhanLo
- yeah sooner or later we'll be completely immersed in our favourite movies, I'll finally get to see what's in that god-dammed briefcase lol_niko
- ^ lol yessssRamanisky2
- jack black did it in enemy of the stateimbecile
- soon out of a jobApeRobot
- Pretty soon we will be live stream-playing our own and others' real lives in VR3D with live mixing in of anything object or situation imaginableprophetone
- ^ you just described existence.robthelad
- yuekit1
https://archive.is/vAw3g/d08b8c1…
Did tech companies violate copyright by training their models on other people's work?
This summer, I acquired a data set of more than 191,000 books that were used without permission to train generative-AI systems by Meta, Bloomberg, and others. I wrote in The Atlantic about how the data set, known as “Books3,” was based on a collection of pirated ebooks, most of them published in the past 20 years. Since then, I’ve done a deep analysis of what’s actually in the data set, which is now at the center of several lawsuits brought against Meta by writers such as Sarah Silverman, Michael Chabon, and Paul Tremblay, who claim that its use in training generative AI amounts to copyright infringement.
- Do we need permission to read a book and influence your thoughts or creativity?microkorg
- Do we needed to pay and ask for permission to every photographer whose pictures were used to train face detection ?palimpsest
- Also, the data "not used" is as useful as the data that "is used" in training.palimpsest
- If you don't want what you have learned or created turned into influence then keep it to yourself. Don't publish it anywhere. ;)microkorg
- humans are not a.i ... thats why they violated it...neverscared
- u have to give the human a tech device to engange with media like.. filming movies in the 2000´s with a camera and then influence...clearly violation.neverscared
- like the programmers who tune the a.i .. literally puttin their hands on like u pressed rec. on a camera...neverscared
- let the machines read, so i can talk to them!imbecile
- this is dumb, who doesn't build an art direction deck with other people's photos? do we ask for permission? everything is fucking derivativedoesnotexist
- this is not a pitch deck these companies are charging money for a commercial product... based of data they didn't licensejonny_quest_lives
- ifyour pitch deck was leaked online and u used scrap that was from a photographer with means your agency would be suedjonny_quest_lives
- let me tell you about the time an agency i worked for went live with a website using a house industries font they didn't license...jonny_quest_lives
- House industries came after them so fast and for so much the Creative Director called an emergency meeting to ban the use of House Industries fonts outrightjonny_quest_lives
- it's all fun and games until Neutraface is implemented on a semi public devsite and House industries legal contacts you before client sends feedbackjonny_quest_lives
- Just think about all the data that goes into AI training, you can't license it all. It's like paying IKEA for using a bookshelf in a single movie shot.palimpsest
- In facial recognition the image of a fire hydrant (non-target data) is as useful as the image of a face. Imagine licensing all the images used there.palimpsest
- The companies acquired pirated material, it's illegal and wrong.
But the violation of copyright by training models on others people's work is another question.palimpsest - Also, we are talking about training AI, not the output. I don't think it's feasible to license every single piece of data that goes into training.palimpsest
- fire hydrant isn't a getty image of brad pittjonny_quest_lives
- just as Getty would have a copyright of the image of brad pitt... Pitt would have likeness rights limiting Getty to only use the image for editorialjonny_quest_lives
- or non commercial work... Midjourney is trying to thread the needle of passing their original infringement onto their users. it just won't fly.jonny_quest_lives
- the tech is neat almost magical but it's only magical with high quality data...jonny_quest_lives
- You are not allowed to take someones music and use it in your songs without permission, but you are allowed to listen to music and learn from it and make your o_niko
- ...own. Who cares where that music came from really, whether you paid for a CD or went to see a band or your mama sang it to you, you learn by hearing._niko
- These authors are saying, "you heard my songs somewhere, maybe you girlfriends mix-tape or maybe you downloaded it for free, or maybe it was on the radio_niko
- the point is that you learned from our music and so you owe us moneys."_niko
- It I show someone a pic of Brad Pitt and tell them to find me an actor that does or doesn't look like him. Should I license the pic?palimpsest
- Repeating myself: in training, which is the issue here, the images of not Brad Pitt are as necessary as those of Brad Pitt.palimpsest
- _niko has made a good point from the human learning (training) experience.
We're talking about practice here. What are we talking about? Practice!palimpsest - also repeating myself but you can't train your ai on images of brad pitt without securing an authorization of brad pitt if you are selling a commercial servicejonny_quest_lives
- that can replicate 1;1 likenesses derivatives of brad pitt at commercial scale... tke that functionality of the SOFTWAREjonny_quest_lives
- it's SOFTWARE.. loaded up and trained on data...DATA they needed to secure licensing for for commercial use. the software guesses probabilities of pixelsjonny_quest_lives
- based on pixels they trained it on added noise to then denoises and did that thousands of times until the machine was tunedjonny_quest_lives
- you may find value in what the software can do now but that doesn't mean thes companies aren't liable... and the people who had their shit taken can seekjonny_quest_lives
- compensation or ask the companies to kill the training models and do it all over again with licensed commercial datajonny_quest_lives
- either way the companies will either settle or be penalized. genie is out of the bottle... it's a different world...jonny_quest_lives
- but it's just software... it doesn't learn it's not sentient data and functionality can be removed/added at any timejonny_quest_lives
- it's weird... what if Adobe had done the same as these Ai startups and just gaffled normies data and scrapped artstation and deviant art and thousands ofjonny_quest_lives
- portfolio sites and trained a generative image mode then released it and said too bad it's just like a human let it learnjonny_quest_lives
- I am not against licensing for training. If the the only job of the software would be to recognize pics of Brad Pitt.palimpsest
- I just don't see how feasible it would be to license everything that something like ChatGPT is trained with.palimpsest
- That's the ai startups headache.... Not copyright holders... sort out your training data...jonny_quest_lives
- LOL, OK.palimpsest
- see what happens in the courts... the midjourney case will set the precedent... either they settle with getty or go to trialjonny_quest_lives
- and either pay damages some peeps say they may have to retrain their models who knows... lawyers will always tell you the goal is not to be suedjonny_quest_lives
- https://cdn.vox-cdn.…jonny_quest_lives
- "This case arises from Stability AI’s brazen infringement of Getty Images’
intellectual property on a staggering scale. Upon information and belief,jonny_quest_lives - Upon information and belief, Stability AI has copied more than 12 million photographs from Getty Images’ collection,jonny_quest_lives
- along with the associated
captions and metadata, without permission from or compensation to Getty Imagesjonny_quest_lives - as part of its
efforts to build a competing business"jonny_quest_lives - Our Agency Getty rep once met with our agencies IT department because Art Director's were hoarding stock they downloadedjonny_quest_lives
- Apparently that's a violation of TOS stock is to be downloaded per project as the images on Getty's current site are the only ones they can license youjonny_quest_lives
- Hoarding stock for other projects puts you and your client at risk if that asset drops of their site i.e someone purchases exculsive rightsjonny_quest_lives
- they discovered us because we went to license stock that they hadn't hosted online for 4 years.... we could't provide a receipt or date of downloadjonny_quest_lives
- courtesy visit from the getty rep... it department meeting... purge of art directors shared folders and raised rates for a dedicated download portaljonny_quest_lives
- i think proving midjourney bulk scrapped their website for preview thumbnails will be a layup for Gettyjonny_quest_lives
- https://www.gettyima…jonny_quest_lives
- the midjourney getty case seems the most clear cut... unless discovery in these other cases shows these startups were violating IPjonny_quest_lives
- left and right because they assumed some "research" rule set covered them... newsflash they aren't universities and if u haven't published academic papersjonny_quest_lives
- hard to establish a research defense... charging users for outputs definitely negates the research clausejonny_quest_lives
- but what do i know? Adobe won't let me use "Handicap" or "Pimp" in the generative fill prompt dialog so i figure TOS and ban hammers are comingjonny_quest_lives
- keep an eye on these young cats they are up and comers: https://disneyanimat…jonny_quest_lives
- relatively young startup get the word out: https://la.disneyres…jonny_quest_lives
- thumb_screws1
"You Just Found Out Your Book Was Used to Train AI. Now What?"
- ludites_niko
- https://www.wired.co…sted
- I still don't get it, how many books did these same authors read and "train" on before they wrote their own books?_niko
- does every author owe monetary debt to Hemingway, Lovecraft, Christie, Asimov, Bradbury, García Márquez, Joyce, Steinbeck, Bukowski etc?_niko
- @_niko machines aren't humans ok?sted
- Let me call the Waaaambulance!utopian
- let the machines read! the more they know, the better my conversations with them are. sad that copyright is getting in the way lately.imbecile
- "Books3 dataset contains 183,000 books, downloaded from pirate sources"...give the authors free GPT4 access.
or some fuck off money (openai/nvidia has enough)uan - your monetary debts to Hemingway, Lovecraft, Christie, Asimov, Bradbury, García Márquez, Joyce, Steinbeck, Bukowskijonny_quest_lives
- were either paid when you bought there books or by the library you checked their books out from...jonny_quest_lives
- *theirjonny_quest_lives
- unless public domain you need to license your data for commercial purposes... these ai companies were so flagrant no one will back down nowjonny_quest_lives
- so? how do you know they didn't pay for e-books? or through the library..._niko
- and hopefully they trained mostly on public domain works from 100 years ago and older and not the drivel that's produced today :)_niko
- There's a big difference between spending your life studying literature, understanding the 4 columns, and automated "art".garbage
- We're creating an emptiness in creative spaces. The whole AI thing is getting old, because it's a conversation that started over a decade ago.garbage
- @niko read the articles and the awsuit they boosted books that were pirated online.... ffs. Trial discovery gonna be lit.jonny_quest_lives
- It's the legal equivalent of launching a streaming service but you got all your movies and shows megaupload links...jonny_quest_lives
- utopian4
An ancient language with nearly a million undeciphered texts just got a translator that does the job in seconds: A.I.
Dead languages are famously hard to decipher. It took 23 years to crack the Egyptian hieroglyphics on the Rosetta Stone. It took nearly two centuries to understand Mayan glyphs. And it took over 3,000 years to reveal Linear B, the earliest form of Greek. When techno-optimists talk about the game-changing potential of A.I., they cite difficult problems like this, and even for languages that have already been translated, challenges remain. Consider Akkadian cuneiform, one of the world’s oldest written languages. There are so few people who can read the extinct language that nearly a million Akkadian texts still haven’t been translated to date—but now an A.I. tool can decode them within seconds.
- send it to that tibetan monastery that has like 100,000 unread untranslated textsdoesnotexist
- great article and yeah what a breakthrough tool this will be_niko
- BonusPhanLo
- This is not good. AI will learn ancient magic and spells before us and will take over the world.Beeswax
- ^ hehePhanLo
- Beeswax3
- well, either we quit and raise goats or we charge the same and free up our days to do something we like...like raising goats._niko
- If you want a goat _niko, you should just get a goat. You don't need a reason.slappy
- Who's this doing the VO, Where's Benjamin?refunktion
- Welcome to lazy, easy, thoughtless style masquerading as designBluejam
- Wtf is this crap?
Remember Thegrid.ai
https://thenextweb.c…grafician
- utopian5
- Thats just algos, no AIdrgs
- <spasmodic voice>
<flailing arms>
Thats just algos, no AI
</flailing arms>
</spasmodic voice>kingsteven - That was pretty coolcrazyprick
- Krassy1
Bard is Google's experimental, conversational, AI chat service. It is meant to function similarly to ChatGPT, with the biggest difference being that Google's service will pull its information from the web.
- Gpt pills data from the web But I think Bard is more accurate on the keyword research services that Google hasHayoth
- ChatGPT pulls pre-2021 web data; Bard pulls everythingKrassy
- "Google Bard isn’t available in any European Union countries and Canada"grafician
- Bard is a funny name, what is this Dungeons and Dragons?yuekit
- D&D? You don’t read much I guessGnash
- lol at thinking reading lord of the rings makes someone a reader. yuekit is one of the most informed posters on this site.imbecile
- or hobbit, whichever. i didn't read them eitherimbecile
- Lord of the rings? That’s even worse. And by reading, I don’t mean internet blogs ffsGnash
- how do you find reading fiction somehow better than reading fact? fyi, your elitist attitude is laughableimbecile
- "haha, this guy doesn't know who bard is!, you hear me guys? this guy doesn't even know who bard is." in case you wonder how everyone else is reading your postimbecile
- for anyone interested. bard means poet according to shakespeare. bard of avalon or whatnot. imo bard is no poet, more like gpt's "slow" younger siblingimbecile
- i learned that reading google's blog, go figureimbecile
- https://www.youtube.…MrT
- Why so triggered? Lol, wHy dO yoU cAreGnash
- Not being available in EU is a BIG fuck offgrafician
- Also posting this shit in this thread is insulting our Natural Intelligencegrafician
- lol @ this discussion. I realize it predates a role playing game from the 70s, just kind of a clunky name IMO.yuekit
- @MrT LOL! good bit. Thanks for sharingKrassy
- uan3
- got a second network error when asked again.
I hope I didn't break it asking stupid suff :-)uan - You killed AI!palimpsest
- i also kept breaking it trying to get it to give me the code for streaming a linkedin post feed to a webpagehans_glib
- hearing that llama-7b deals a lot better running this sort of thing, GPT4 cuts you off when it falls in a loop justkingsteven
- this means my plan to compile 'the digital anarchist cookbook' will take a lot more work.uan
- you broke it!dbloc
- got a second network error when asked again.
- jonny_quest_lives3
“Glaze analyzes your art, and generates a modified version (with barely visible changes). This "cloaked" image disrupts AI mimicry process.”
https://glaze.cs.uchicago.edu/in…
https://glaze.cs.uchicago.edu/do…
"The GLAZE technique is specifically adversarial to finetuning. Decided to take an alternate approach "style mimicry" and used PEZ to reverse engineer viable prompts. Seems to work as expected: generated prompts capture content but bork on style. great work "
- IN ENGLISH?shapesalad
- protective algorithmic noise applied to images u post on the internet that bonks AI predictive denoising if your images get scraped or used in a training modeljonny_quest_lives
- this is good stuffimbecile
- Glaze Deez NutsShenanigansTV
- wait until de-glazer comes outmaquito
- https://www.youtube.…imbecile
- _niko3
man photoshop is dead. here's a quick up-res I did with an istock photo and the results are stunning:
https://www.photorestore.io (thanks Pablo)
- The 2nd pic has a nice face quality but the rest still has a lot of pixelationNBQ00
- Yeah not sure why just the face but there are tons of options to play with I’m sure one of them enhances everything_niko
- wow! bookmarked. thx for sharinghotroddy
- ohh, may have to use this on the Jordan Capri images I gathered in 2006hydro74
- Photoshop has an AI up-scaler built in. And it does a great job of the whole image.robthelad
- rob herald, not really, it's pretty shitty compared to this_niko
- agreed, upscaling in photoshop pails in comparison/hotroddy
- shapesalad0
Imagine Apple stick some AI into finder.
You save a file... the AI examines the content of the file, it's related project files on your HD etc, and neatly files in a today folder structure. You save another file for that project and the AI knows exactly where it should go. etc
Perhaps it could name files too.
So you never have to drill through folders - you just type in the project name and bam - all the files, all neatly organised etc.
- and neatly files in a *tidy* folder structure.shapesalad
- file_new_new_new.aipalimpsest
- When AI takes over your duties you dont need to organize filesdrgs
- Nah, shape. Start small. Baby steps. Incrementally.
By which I mean: let's have AI name PS layers intelligently.Continuity - i have read that Gen Z and later is baffled by folder structure/hierarchy in general...jonny_quest_lives
- https://www.theverge…jonny_quest_lives
- what if there was an AI that stopped other AI from searching your computer?api
- No, I would be lost without Website_D11_FA4_Fina... naming conventionsslappy
- would be great! search folders, generate new folders, sort them, sort the file, open them in Adobe or finder, save them in adobe/finder, create, forget, what?sandpipe
- interesting regarding that verge article. I might have to put on my CV 'Able to organise files and folders' to gain an advantage over the cheap youngsters.shapesalad
- imbecile2
Your voice goes in, a voice "naturalized" to the target audience comes out.
- Indian accent removerdrgs
- I was checking this out, it's not realtime and sounds like tts, bit of a scammy pitch for funding even without the racist overtoneskingsteven
- this is in its infancy "solving a problem". i presume with more training, something like this will evolve into a localized translation optionimbecile
- combine with 3D avatars - https://www.youtube.…imbecile
- Scam facilitatorGnash
- i hear your racism and raise you inexpensive phone support without the complaint and abuse from... racist customersimbecile
- if realtime - then it's a penny stock BUY.shapesalad
- https://www.crunchba…imbecile
- lol drgsYakuZoku
- milfhunter1
Make-A-Video is a state-of-the-art AI system that generates videos from text.
- nb4
questine:I’m looking for resources on product design for Machine Learning. It’s not that new of a field but the field moves fast enough that many of the articles from a few years ago feel dated.
Do you have any links Videos/articles or anything that would help a designer who works on an ML intelligence team?
- Is there a discordnb
- +1maquito
- they tend to like twitter (as far as I can see) and blog about stuffuan
- https://simonwilliso…
...uan - https://waxy.org/202…uan
- DALL E has the best UX, so maybe find out who is the designer at Open AI and ask for tips?grafician
- I’m not trying to design a interfaces for ux tools. I’m trying to design for machine learning itselfnb
- -anb
- You need to readjust your prompt for your comments because I don't get what you actually need?grafician
- Anyway maybe this helps:
https://uxdesign.cc/…grafician - and this https://medium.com/p…grafician
- also this https://www.pluralsi…grafician
- def this
https://medium.com/w…grafician - this too https://towardsdatas…grafician
- and ofc this https://towardsdatas…grafician
- Dope that’s a ton of info. Thanks I’ll look thru it allnb
- Noggin2
Scary good...
- tune about an aging skater with Achilles tendonitis,
https://www.udio.com…PhanLo - It's a mad thing, being a musician is already pretty grim.
'Time stole your tricks and the pains here to stay'PhanLo - impressive.uan
- I won't celebrate this.colab
- musicians (or a talented 11 year old new human) will curate libraries packed in apps and sell those instead of songs and hits.uan
- I don't even particularly like disco and this is damn goodAQUTE
- UDIOAQUTE
- amazing, it's like having your own producer like PDiddy with out all the rape!_niko
- tune about an aging skater with Achilles tendonitis,