Facebook TOS Jan 1

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  • nb

    If you use Facebook, you've received a message saying the Terms of Service are changing on January first.

    My first thoughts were apathetic as always. 'Oh, it's not a big deal, there's no more privacy anymore anyway' and 'Facebook won't use my stuff, who cares', etc.

    But, after reading a couple of articles, I can see this being a problem for some of you/us. As a photographer, I share a lot of stuff on facebook because friends and family use Facebook and like to see what I'm doing.

    But maybe it's time to stop using Facebook.

    Read this article by the American Society of Media Photographers. http://asmp.org/fb-tos#.VH2gA76J…

    A quote from the article:

    "For instance, imagine that a client comes to you in a few months and wants to license an image from you for exclusive commercial use. If that image is posted on Facebook, you would not be able to offer exclusivity to that client because Facebook’s preexisting license to that image would be a conflict. If you were to go through with that agreement, you could be in breach of one contract or the other."

    A good ready for photographers and other artists.

  • georgesIII0

    • Facebook always had the right to all the pictures and informations posted on their network,

    • Facebook was caught doing mood and feed control experiments that may have led to people killing themselves

    • Facebook was founded by inqtel > inqtel was founded by the cia

    • 2014 still feeding facebook informations about your personal life

    < filled in my first world problem cabinet
    (getting quite full btw)

    • Thank you for educating us, Georges!! You are truly the enlightened one!!nb
    • complaining about facebook tos, when they are already deep down your ass, why even bother?georgesIII
    • Georges has spoken!fadein11
    • not of what I said was false, why do you always got to neck 2 da birdgeorgesIII
    • I'm astounded to see FB and LinkedIn still used. Egregious ToS umbrella polices. When will people demand higher standards?ZOOP
    • standards?ZOOP
    • So, any actual proven references to people killing themselves from that 'mood experiment.'ETM
  • monospaced0

    Anything and everything you post on Facebook remains your intellectual property and is copywritten to you.

  • monospaced0

    By posting your professional shot on Facebook, you are literally giving them non-exclusive rights by default. You publish it for them.

    Now, if you are a real professional and want to sell your image to a client exclusively, your terms with Facebook won't conflict with that whatsoever.

    • meaning, the only contract you have with Facebook is that they can show the image to people who you chose to show it to.monospaced
    • aka, your'e allowing them to host it... they do not "own" it and they do not have any right to reproduce without permissionmonospaced
    • Yup, this is how I interpreted it, too.Continuity

    Or just post into your status

    Good health and scene bitches will come your way

    • < this is a waste of fucking time and an absolute overreaction to a complete misunderstanding of legal termsmonospaced
    • There go my scene bitches!ORAZAL
    • and wtf is a Berner Convention? It's Berne, dumbassesmonospaced
    • This is NOT legally binding. C'mon people.ETM
    • I always, ALWAYS laugh at every single person who posts that.mg33
  • georgesIII0

    from last year


    What the terms of service say
    With over a billion users, Facebook is the definitive homepage for many web users. Its terms of service, data use and cookie use policy span more than 14,000 words over eight separate pages and would take even the quickest reader more than two hours to dig through. But what rights have you handed over to Facebook?
    Specifically for photos and video uploaded to the site, Facebook has a license to use your content in any way it sees fit, with a license that goes beyond merely covering the operation of the service in its current form. Facebook can transfer or sub-license its rights over a user’s content to another company or organisation if needed. Facebook’s license does not end upon the deactivation or deletion of a user’s account, content is only released from this license once all other users that have interacted with the content have also broken their ties with it (for example, a photo or video shared or tagged with a group of friends).
    Fast becoming the second social network behind Facebook, Twitter's model for monetising the service has yet to be established, a fact clearly seen in its terms of service. Twitter's terms give it broad scope to use, change and distribute any photos, writing or video posted through Twitter's service, to any other forms of media or distribution method it wishes, including those which Twitter has not yet thought of or developed. Similarly to Facebook, Twitter's license also allows it to pass any of your content to any partner organisations for any reason.
    Making only small waves in the field of social networking, Google+ is probably not the place where most users first agreed to Google's terms of service. Most users probably signed up through one of Google’s many online services like Gmail, Google Maps or Google Drive. Luckily Google has a modest set of terms when it comes to user’s content, restricting its use of such content only for "the limited purpose of operating, promoting, and improving our Services, and to develop new ones."
    The free file storage service that promises to ‘simplify your life’ takes only the smallest liberties with its user’s content and rights. Dropbox limits their use of your data "solely to provide the services... no matter how the services change, we won’t share your content with others..." These permissions do extend to allowing Dropbox to share user’s data with "trusted third parties" but again, only in order to provide their existing services.

    • and it's still a gross exaggeration and misunderstanding of the terms and copyrightsmonospaced
    • it's fanatical evenmonospaced
    • yeah, let's trust him

    • not a matter of trusting him, it's a simple matter of understanding the terms and copyrightmonospaced
    • but of course you're free to disseminate reactionary naive misinterpretations, that's what's so great about FBmonospaced
    • It's a matter of control. Don't post EVERY fucking private detail of you life either.ETM
  • dibec0

    Remember ... https://myspace.com ?

    That is next for Facebook. Greed will trump form/function.

  • HijoDMaite0

    I happen to be in the camp that trust companies like Facebook and Google more than any others. Think about it, the reason these companies are so successful is because they make great products that people want to use. The accountability is huge! As soon as Google is caught doing something dishonest the entire world knows about it. They cannot afford to be dishonest and stay on top. These companies are being watched by consumers and critics more and closer than any other little company you may give your information to. This is why I do not mind using Google for everything, it makes my life easier.

    FB has been the top Social Media site for more than five years now right? And it hosts millions of photos a day, where are the examples of Photographers getting ripped off by Facebook, where are the court cases of artists claiming to have had copyrighted material stolen by Facebook.

    Of course none of this applies to security breaches and being responsible for the type of material you upload to the internet.

    • Remember this, the one that knows all has all the power.dibec
  • Gnash0

    "That privacy notice you're posting to Facebook? It won't work.
    Users of the world's largest social network are once again falling for a hoax "notice" to copyright their content."


  • Miguex0

    If you remember these words, you should be ok, no matter how many times facebook updates their terms.

    "Do not upload anything you don't want to be made public, to a public site."

    Carry on...