Browser Wars
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- Hayoth-1
our web developer is out of the country and we have a client that is having a "Unicode" issue with a google font on a chrome browser on PC.
Know any fixes for this or what the actual issue is? is it a unicode issue
https://imgur.com/a/F89pEjK- look at the source code. (highlight text, right click Inspect)...could be some non-standard character in the text from copy paste from word or so.uan
- ^thishans_glib
- open in text edit > convert to plain text > past back into website. This usually happens when we copy paste from a word doc or another program.dbloc
- Thanks guysHayoth
- This will help you find the unicode characters.
https://www.textmagi…dbloc
- i_monk0
Firefox 75.0 now automatically opens links in tabs when right-clicked, no context menu. Didn't know I needed that.
- How do you copy links then?section_014
- I now suspect it's my tablet being wonky.i_monk
- Hmm, mine doesn't? Not entirely happy with the new address bar functionality - it presumes a bit too much.
"Didn't know I needed that"... .Nairn - (apparently they're already nixing a lot of Address Bar stuff in the nightly builds, but I don't really do that sort of thing any more)Nairn
- Don't like this. I'd rather have the menudbloc
- renderedred1
new firefox picture in picture for videos is neat
- https://support.mozi…renderedred
- I've wanted that for years!i_monk
- i am browsing qbn while watching footballrenderedred
- So glad they did this; Safari was the only browser that did it until this.evilpeacock
- Ever since I've seen PiP back in the 80s I've been wondering why the hell would anyone need this? What do you use PIP for?zarkonite
- utopian1
I tried Chrome for 5 minutes and went back to Safari
- CyBrainX0
1996 - 1998: Netscape
1998 - 2001: Internet Explorer
2001 - 2004: Safari
2004 - 2010: Firefox
2010 - 2015: Chrome
Monday: back to Firefox. The Web Developer Add stopped working. I don't like how activity monitor shows about 25 Chrome Helpers in the memory list. I don't like how piggish and whorish it's been lately.
- nb0
Anyone having trouble with Safari the past week or so? It seems to hang up on some sites. I get the beach ball sometimes on certain DIVs on the screen or in the menu bar. I'm giving it another few days, if it's not fixed, I guess I'll go back to FF?
- ETM0
One thing I dislike about Safari is that the any open tabs on my Mac are visible on my iPhone.
Man that's embarrassing.
- meatball1
Went back to chrome, the Recently Visited & Recently Closed functionality is something I use a lot and it's so much better on Chrome - Safari never seems to show what I had open.
- transmission0
i've often why all these companies put so much effort into get us to use their browser. Why is there even a war on browsers?
Is the for the Data they collect? What monetary benefits is there for the guys to develop this stuff and give it way for free?- ...wonder why...
shit a lot of errors up in this bitchtransmission - Prestige. Nobody will pay for a browser, but everyone wants to be known for having the most popular browser.i_monk
- Lulz. It's not prestige. Google, Apple, Microsoft do not want to rely a competitor's product to access the web.nb
- If you hold web market share, you can shape the web towards your own technologies.nb
- Just look at Flash. Apple got the mobile market, then used that market share to remove Adobe from dictating tech trends.nb
- they only removed Flash from their own platform, nobody else had to do the samemonospaced
- Yes, of course. The point I'm making is that when you have the market share, you can shift technologies in your direction.nb
- Are you unaware of internet protocol standards? MS tried deviated from HTML and lost their browser majority for it.i_monk
- Yes, MS is super bad it. Google is much better. They're not shifting away from HTML standards. Far more subtle.nb
- Google knows how to stay popular and mainstream while at the same time maximizing profits through advertising and data ownership.nb
- When Apple launched iOS they didn't even have a small piece of the market share.monospaced
- ...wonder why...
- ernexbcn0
Apple didn't remove Flash, Adobe couldn't provide a proper plugin for it. If they could we would have a decent Flash plugin for Android, guess what, it doesn't exists.
- Apple didn't allow it, pretty much the same thing as banning itformed
- Apple allows Flash.monospaced
- nb0
The point I'd like to make is that if you control market share, you can shift technology towards what benefits your own company.
Maybe Flash is a bad example.
How about this one... Let's assume that Google thinks Gmail/Inbox is a valuable asset. In order to keep people using it, gmail needs to be a decent user experience. Having your own browser means that you aren't relying as much on other companies' technologies to deliver a good user experience.
It's the same reason Apple makes Maps for iPhone. Google Maps works fine, but Apple doesn't want to rely on Google's technology. If Google Maps starts to lag behind as the best map (or Google decides to limit it or drop support for iOS or any other unlikely but possible scenario) Apple could lose lots of sales of iPhones while people complain about the map service. So, they make their own Maps app so that they aren't depending on the technology of others.
Also, don't forget that data is valuable, and the more data you can scrape, the more valuable your company looks. Notice how in recent versions of Chrome you can Log In to Chrome? This is great for tracking your usage patterns (especially across devices) and that data is super valuable to lots of different organizations. Google couldn't offer that without offering their own browser. So, the better they make their browser, the more people use it, and they get more logins and better data to sell. Of course, not everyone needs to log in. They get a lot more data from people just using Chrome than the data they can get when people use other browsers.
- set1
Never thought I'd say it but I'm using Safari again, and it's great.
I've used chrome for years, and safari used to lock my mac up, but on my new macbook on yosemite chrome drains the battery and makes the fan turn to jet engine setting. Safari works beautifully.- I landed on Safari as well. Occasionally pop open chrome for code inspector. Chrome's UI feels clunky after using Safari. Safari has so little chrome, it's nicejtb26
- same here, just recently moved back and it's sooo fastmonospaced
- it really is, I like it, and I agree about the UI.set
- wish there was another alternative - chrome has gone downhill but really don't want to be forced to use another poor browser because of thatfadein11
- Safari is and always has been shitfadein11
- Yeah, Safari is great on osx, especially if you are using battery. Much more efficient, at least on my machine.nb
- lol at Safari beeing shit. just shows how much you're biased man.ESKEMA
- iCanHazQBN1
What's with the 1st world bullshit comments. We can't talk about anything except war and poverty? This is a design forum. It's ok, don't be afraid... you can start a thread on web browsers.
- meffid1
Safari. It does what I need, I don't use more than 2 tabs at a time, and I fucking hate Chrome and all things Google because of it's ad-tracking and intrusive horse shit.
- inteliboy0
Chrome - its ram hogging, slowness and freezing on animated gifs got the better of me --- so I jumped back to Safari.
Safari - It's fast. But now after a few months am hating it even more, it crashes my system every few days, crashes itself everyday, and really struggles with flash. It also feels buggy. The tab system is shit. Sometimes it will freeze, can't scroll, wait a few seconds, then it suddenly unlocks and I can scroll again.
thinking of going back to Chrome...
- it crashes?
the only thing that takes down my Safari is linking to a site via Facebook, without failmonospaced
- it crashes?
- nb0
Safari on Mac, I use Ctrl-Tab key to toggle to the next tab within that window. It doesn't go through different windows. Ctrl-Shift-Tab goes to previous tab. Safari 7, OSX 10.9.
Used along with Cmd T, Cmd W and Cmd L, it makes for very fast browsing with lots of tabs.
- These are the same controls as Firefox.i_monk
- I would hope it is standard across browsers, it works so well.nb
- If I'm in the left most tab and I want to get to the 20th tab I have to hit Ctrl-Tab 20 times???iCanHazQBN
- Not very intuitive. The tabs should be exposed and a left-right scroll should be implemented. Like how Tor functions.iCanHazQBN
- Well, you could go back a tab. If you have 40 tabs and want to go to the 20th you could use your mouse. Geez.nb
- You can also use Ctrl+(the number of the tab you want to jump to) if your in hurry.voiceof
- Clarification: you can go to Ctrl+8 after that Ctrl+9 takes you to the last tab.voiceof
- nb0
One thing I like about Safari is that the any open tabs on my Mac are visible on my iPhone. But regardless of features, Safari is just so energy-efficient on a MBP that I can't see myself switching any time soon.
- dbloc2
I tried chrome for 2 weeks and went back to FF
