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Hey everyone, I have a small question,
with the increase of use of automation/AI around us, which jobs do you think will survive the purge,
I was shopping at ikea and decided to go to the self checking for speed, because I'm totally retarded, I made a mistake and had to ask the clerk standing there for help, As she was helping me, he hits me that she was basically training me to use the machine that will put her out of her jobs in a few years, if not months,
this is happening all around us in fast food joint, at the gas station, cinemas, even bakeries are putting interactive stations were you can order, view, pay for anything you want without interacting with another human being,
So what are the fields other than clerks, machines will be able replace?
I need help compiling a list of work that are probably doomed by the rise of the AI
- any type of delivery person
- taxi driver
- airplane pilot
- train driver
Surface technicians (aka cleaning ladies)
Any dangerous work.
And if those people at the automatic checkouts are there to "train" us they are doing a horrible job because they've been there for years now. Maybe they should replace them with robots too.
What's a pizzaiolo?
The day we find a power source that is not hurting the planet, and unlimitedly available, all kind of work is getting obsolete. Because on the very base level of mankind, we work for energy.
AI, Robotics and the future of jobs (67pages)
rest assured ...
"In 2010 researchers at the University of California, Berkeley, programmed a robot to fold a pile of towels. But it took the robot, which cost $400,000 to buy, 25 minutes a towel, with most time spent working out how to grasp it. The researchers have been working on trying to get it to do a full cycle of laundry, but many areas seem to hamper it."
I try and use a human checkout line whenever possible, just for the reason you mention georges. I was using the self-checkout as well, but then realized what it would mean for their jobs. Also, it never really saves me any time.
Bank Tellers are in the same boat.
all the skilled trades will remain human for a long time. plus, you can't outsource them. double whammy
I reckon 'most' or at least 'many' skilled trades are reproducible with the right machines, and perhaps an unskilled handler to move between themdetritus
- too much variation. we don't have the ai to make heads or tales of the crazy shit i saw as a carpentry subgilgamush
Posted it before, posting it again.
ALL jobs can be automated, including "creative".
Examples in the vid.
As posed in the video the more important question is how we can prepare for the transition.
Void of any substantial research, deeper dwelling or any kind of authority on the subject I'll still give my opinion on that. Which is that an automated society probably requires docile- or mentally capable citizens. None of which really exist atm. Me replying, with that background, could serve as proof for that.
The paradox is that technology and capitalism keep driving towards greater and greater efficiency. But once too many people are out of work, the same economic system starts running into problems because you need reliable consumers and a stable society.
Maybe in the long run it leads to a different system where our basic needs are met and machines do all the work. But more likely in the short term a Darwinian situation where the adaptable survive and the rest go hungry.
- not really,
you just have to reduce population to let's say 500 millions then you can control them as you want, not need for an economic system, when machinesgeorgesIII
- Poverty will be finally be eradicated. Capitalism wins.ORAZAL
- are there to control, measure, evaluate your every movegeorgesIII
- You still need consumers to buy stuff, otherwise what's the point of having robots in the first place?yuekit
- g3, that's the docile part I mentioned.
The "mentally capable" part is about a society free of "work for living". ie free of greed, so on. We probably will nevePeter
- r get there. At least not in our lifetime, or our childrens lifetime. But one can dream of Star Trek and their way of life.Peter
- Mm, it's the consumer angle that seems missing in most people's dystopian extrapolations of our jobless future...detritus
- but detritus, muh robot ovahlawdz!! :(georgesIII
- Maybe it comes to a point where people only work 2 hours a day. I have no idea. Don't listen to me.iCanHazQBN
- not really,
^ out of work, because the work is done by robots.
There are no more work, and no income.
And no one invests impressivly for automation
then hands out energy, water, and food for free.
Interestingly enough, living off what nature provide is illegal in some places.
- we could employ people designing/building and repairing robots. or can the robots do that too?monNom
- I figure they could do that too.
Even if that was the one job they couldn't that wouldn't enough for mankind if an economy is what makes the world spin.Peter