EU refugee crisis
EU refugee crisis
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- sureshot8
"60 Minutes Goes To Sweden To Show How Peaceful Refugees Are, Entire Crew Gets Assaulted By Refugees"
- HAHAHA OH - THE OLD BOY IN THE MOBILITY SCOOTER! WHAT A DUDE!detritus
- Im glad I didn't have any liquid in my mouth when I saw that - I'd be looking out a replacement monitor.detritus
- Hahahaha at the scooter guy.
But seriously... They need to die.set - scooter guy was awesome..but thats about it indeedsureshot
- Clearly the fault of racist Sweden for not being more accommodating and providing good jobs for their guests. That one dude who threw a brick..._niko
- Should be starting pitcher for the Stockholm Vikings baseball team, and that guy with the awesome kicks should be playing alongside ibrahimovic on swedens..._niko
- National team, and the dude that got run over by the scoother needs to be head crash-test dummy at Volvo._niko
- swedes should more understanding as immigrants are a product of less civil societies.hotroddy
- Scooter guy will live on in our memoriesterry_cloth
- Lolrobotron3k
- LOOOOL then again I would never go to RinkebyArchitectofFate
- Continuity0
Well ... no big shock, here:
Isis recruiters targeting refugees in Europe, say counter-terror experts
- mg33 called it on page 1.Continuity
- well, it's kinda logicalGeorgesII
- Obviously!HAYZ1LLLA
- Lefty luvvies in EU call you the usual names if you mention this subject. Total denialDillinger
- Says the guy calling people names and denying the fact that this is a mainstream issue and the article is in the left-ish press.Fax_Benson
- ^
well isn't a clock right twice a day?
but let's ignore that those pushing for a laissez faire with the refugees are 100% leftist,GeorgesII - I never called anyone names except maybe Moldero for stalking me with fake accounts LOL :-) I dont care what you think of me or call me. free speech baby.Dillinger
- this subject has been completely ignored except for a handful of articles that get buriedDillinger
- LOL @ lefties in EU... Neoliberalism all the way in EU, UK and USA... big difference. These attacks on the left are amusing - the UK hasn't had a sniff of afadein11
- left leaning leadership for decades.fadein11
- call that an attack LOL people are so softDillinger
- generation snowflakeDillinger
- The issue is either on the front or inside every British newspaper, daily. And has been for a decade.Fax_Benson
- Plenty of land in Kazakhstan to build new towns and cities for all the refugees, and it's closer to the middle east.fruitsalad
- was talking in general about recent attacks on 'the left' - whatever that is - just saying the UK hasn't had a left leaning govt for decades.fadein11
- or should I say blame, not attacks... but carry on.fadein11
- kazakhstan is almost as big as Europe. kazakhstan population 17mil. tiny! all the EU money could have been spent on cement for Refugees to build new towns therefruitsalad
- Where they could've happily lived under whatever medieval religion takes their suppressive fancy.fruitsalad
- Great success!Continuity
- Chuck them all in Kazakstan with a million Quran-dildos so they can all fuck each other to death with their antiquated belief systems.set
- While you're there chuck all the Christians in there too, and the anti-gay lobbyists, Piers Morgan and all the wasps.set
- See, it's not a taboo subject. set just quoted an actual Daily Express headline.Fax_Benson
- I wonder if Dillinger says his 'snowflake' horseshit out loud, like, in general conversation when adults are present.face_melter
- nah - too busy polishing his gun collection.fadein11
- Probably worth stating for the softies that I'm just playing devils advocateset
- Fuck wasps, the little bastards.detritus
- Yea fadein, right on, stereotypes are much more fun than observable factterry_cloth
- @shit_cloth - isn't snowflake a stereotype? you fucking moron.fadein11
- Oh man, I think I hit a nerveterry_cloth
- nah - just pointing out your lack of intelligence.fadein11
- Bombed out of your home, flee across a continent on foot, left to drown in the Sea, kept penned in an interment camp. Wouldn't turn you or me. No sir.monoboy
- Lol at fadein pointing out someone's lack of intelligence. Half-wits who are so confused that they think other people are stupid. Funnyset
- I'm just trolling nowset
- Heh heh, dishing it out but can't take it, classic fadeinterry_cloth
- ah - another fine example.fadein11
- GeorgesII3
sorry I laughed,
- I laughed and downvoted you my friendBeeswax
- I Downvoted myselfGeorgesII
- HAHADillinger
- LOLOBBTKN
- lol @ ABBA headsGnash
- LMFAOvero_vandal
- https://www.youtube.…drgs
- they're going to pissedutopian
- sureshot2
Paris is getting rid of refugees
- livesureshot
- where are they being taken to?Gnash
- more, smaller campssted
- but as far as i see theese are people are from algeria and morocco and france brings back some of them to their country because the danger has passedsted
- rt's comment bellow is not so true... :)sted
- lol there is NO danger in Morocco. And Algeria is in the top 10 richest countries in Africa, http://www.africaran…sureshot
- Algeria:
http://www.criticalt…sted - and morocco is an exit point from africa to europe.sted
- And most are Sudanese, Eritreans or Afghan.sureshot
- http://i2.cdn.turner…sted
- I know all these Sted. But thanks.sureshot
- possible, i don't know and rts comments aren't telling anything just that french are assholes who can't deal with the crisis.sted
- after some reading these guys are boarded busses and trains from the Calais camp to Paris few days ago.sted
- so.more refugees in Paris? I dont think people are happy with that situation..I wouldn't.sureshot
- Me neither.Continuity
- i don't think the refugees are overjoyed with the situation either.lowimpakt
- Sounds like parting company with them and sending them back would be a win-win for everyone, then.Continuity
- lolset
- yea, we can do once we know they are not at risk from torture, persecution or war when they return.lowimpakt
- I was involved in a project with refugees a few years ago but had to stop as I couldn't handle the fucked up stories people shared. Also the depression many hadlowimpakt
- You're going on the assumption all of these people are geunuine 'refugees'.Continuity
- cos they were separate from their family. I'm not good at watching other adults weeping when they explain they don't know if their kids/family are alive or deadlowimpakt
- yea, and you're going on the assumption they are not. so where does that leave us?lowimpakt
- lowimpakt did the same. came home every day with mixed feelings because at that time the media told us that they are terrorist, rapists and criminalssted
- I'm going on the assumption that many of the are proper refugees, but that also a great number of them are opportunists.Continuity
- Well it's a fucking difficult situation in any caseset
- sted, yep. I was speaking with a doctor from MSF who is on one of the ships in the med. He's had to pull bodies out of the sea. young and old. horrible.lowimpakt
- I hate to say this..but most are criminal in Holland.. could show you thousands of cases. Rape, house break ins, shop lifting, spitting at our woman,..etc etc..sureshot
- he was also talking about the profound interactions he has on the boat as he can be the first safe individual some of the people have met in weeks/monthslowimpakt
- luckily not all. our country would be a shit hole. Things are diff here in Holland then other countries.. I know because I live here.sureshot
- Sureshot, it's almost exactly the same here in Germany.Continuity
- @ cont...I know..I know people there. Its terrible. Good luck.sureshot
- Good luck to us all, sureshot. We're going to fucking need it.Continuity
- shaft4
Why worry? The overwhelming majority aren't radicals.
An awkward clip, but it appears real.
- You're all out of your minds.ApeRobot
- Because we know people going to religious conferences are "normal"...pr2
- One of my best friends growing up was Muslim, the religion isn't the problem. Dude is more righteous than all you fucks combinedgilgamush
- *is muslimgilgamush
- Europe is doomed. They aren't radical? Just look what happened to London.Hayoth
- Sweeping generalizations and doomsday prophesies, you're a real class act hayothgilgamush
- Continuity0
I fail to see how 'assimilation' is a fucked up word, in this context.
Put another way: you and your woman decide to move to a Muslim country. You get a flat in an expat compound, persist in eating bacon and drinking, and your woman doesn't cover up local stylee. Would you now consider yourself having fit in with your host culture?
- And you've also haven't learned the local language, and don't plan to. How do you reckon the locals would take to that?Continuity
- You are trying to argue that Europe should be as intolerant as places like Saudi Arabia or Sudan. Fuck that.lowimpakt
- I'm trying to argue that every country has a right to defend its native culture.Continuity
- And there aren't thousands of British people living in Spain or France without being able to have a conversation in Spanish or French?lowimpakt
- Correct, and as far as I'm concerned, they've no business being there without making some effort to integrate.Continuity
- im sure there are plenty of fish n chips places in France. dont worry.yurimon
- Great post continuity.mg33
- Continuity, can you give me a precise description of the culture you want to defend?lowimpakt
- The culture that grew up over hundreds — if not thousands of years — shaped by ancient migrations, wars, invasions, self-discovery, arts, literature,Continuity
- ... ways of life, language, long periods of peace, and homogeny.Continuity
- what country specifically, where were you born and where do you live now?lowimpakt
- The long and the short of is that Muslim countries have their own culture, and they're more than welcome to it. It's theirs, and I (nor anyone else) has anyContinuity
- ... right to go to their country and re-shape their culture. And the same applies to Western countries. If place like Scandinavia, France, Slovakia et al wantContinuity
- ... to preserve their native cultures, who are you to tell them they can't, exactly?Continuity
- I was born in Canada, and currently live in Germany.Continuity
- well saidPonyBoy
- I agree. You go to someone's house you respect their rules. My house, my rules or fuck off.set
- Not that I exactly have rules at my house. Don't set fire to the sofa, no shitting on the carpet I guess.set
- No declaring sharia law at set's house.set
- It's not. Only those that want to control language promote political correctnessHayoth
- ^ true, biggest mental poison.yurimon
- it's a credit to you that you prepared so well before fleeing the horrors of Canada.Fax_Benson
- Stephen Harper is worth fleeing from.Continuity
- mg332
One of the bigger problems I'm seeing in this is a wide scale refusal to assimilate within the country they're going to. And it's going to get worse. Look at the areas of Paris that have changed rapidly in the past couple years, where violence is increasing from people who want to impose Islamic law in areas where it has never existed. It's happening in London too - I'm sure some of you can speak in more detail about that.
Again, there are plenty who want a better life and will do anything to follow societal norms in host countries; they just want some respect for their own religion and way of life. But you're also seeing plenty of people totally refuse to assimilate in any way. Instead, they want to see longstanding customs in host countries change, or they want to purely cause havoc and abuse the generosity of those accepting them.
Like I said, I really think this is only going to get worse.
- you would think people who come from hell holes or the asshole of the planet would learn a lesson from their experience of shit going down the crapper fromyurimon
- their actions and belief systems.yurimon
- London is the most diverse city on Earth and nothing like the rest of the UK. It's almost a separate country within the UK in a lot of ways.fadein11
- And its Englishness, where it still exists seems almost fake / theme parkish.fadein11
- hard to quantify to what extent that's happening currently but it tends to be 2nd, 3rd generation migrants rather than new asylum seekers / refugees.Fax_Benson
- ..who are more likely to reject assimilationFax_Benson
- Also, the fact that Muslims statistically have higher birth rates will have a long-term negative impact on native cultures in those 2nd and 3rd generations.Continuity
- Not good.Continuity
- "negative impact" - so more brown people are a bad thing? you rather want it to be more white people?mekk
- iCanHazQBN1
This is ISIS's plan all along. To force Muslim refugees to go to Europe, have them reproduce as rapidly as they always do (5-8 kids per mother), and then in a few generations all of Europe will be all Muslim.
One continent down. A few more to go...
- lol, except that in 2 generations their offspring will be atheist graphic designers that hang out at starbucks. nothing to worry about palgilgamush
- this is what i'm seeing too._niko
- not to be paranoid or anything but they have no way to screen the refugees for ISIS loyalty or anything._niko
- if you really believe this you are either:
a: a dumbass, or
b: someone who enjoys Fox news.fadein11 - Lol gilgamushset
- I can is right. Look at London. Giglamush has normallacy bias.Hayoth
- Love most of these comments are based on ridicule. Can't defend an educated position fade?Hayoth
- What do you mean look at London? I've lived in London most of my life. There's no Muslim 'problem' here...set
- Well there are districts in London that are predominantly Muslim with people not willing to integrate, i.e. only hang around Muslim people all day.iCanHazQBN
- how dare they retain their cultural identitygilgamush
- The same with English in Spain. Big deal...set
- Continuity2
I wonder if there isn't a way to evaluate or quantify level of assimilation, beyond learning the local patois, knowing the local history, as well as knowing its customs and traditions — all of which are used to test eligibility for permanent residency or citizenship in any given country.
I just don't think it's enough. If it *could* be better quantified or evaluated, then I think a new policy could be shaped around that, which would effectively say:
Not integrated = shipped back to wherever the fuck they come from within 30 days
I'd be all in favour of this.
- I'd just kick out any one caught conspiring and anyone caught committing a crime. just kick em out, send em back.yurimon
- Christ. Us agreeing twice on one thread page.Continuity
- why bother letting them in if you're just going to hunt them down with your assimilation police?Fax_Benson
- Because this needs to be a stipulation of migration. It's absolutely admirable to help those in need, but moving to another country means understand you need toContinuity
- that society.
As an immigrant myself (voluntary), I know this very well, and support it.Continuity - The long and the short of it: my host country absolutely has the right to protect its native culture, regardless of the number of foreigners who come.Continuity
- Look at what happened in Kosovo. A bunch of Albanians moved in, had 10 kids each and a few generations later declared independence from Serbia.Milan
- When I saw that Iceland is taking several in, I thought could you imagine a massive amount there, and that culture changing so intensely?mg33
- Slovakia decided to take some in, too, but they stipulated that they're only taking in the Christians, to mitigate the cultural impact.Continuity
- this how things go down the shitter, if you cant preserve some of the more positive aspects of your culture.yurimon
- pablo280
- No real ideas on solving the problem will result in much more of this.PhanLo
- The problem is simple - an imbalance or a chasm between the host culture and values and those of the immigrants. Slowly it is being realised...shapesalad
- Geography isn't the problem, of how far away in distance immigrants are between their host -the problem is the cultural, religious and value chasm between them.shapesalad
- An example of the culture of a non-eu country: http://www.dailymail….shapesalad
- Government's make money from the debt system so they do not give a fuck about this. Centuries of cultures are at risk. Its sad good integration is incredible.mugwart
- it's easy for Merkel to let them in, she doesn't have to see them or interact with them or deal with them in any way. Maybe if she walked the streets undercover_niko
- ...she'd get a sense of the outrage._niko
- germany bends over backwards to tolerate the intolerable. It's almost like they constantly having to prove their aren't nazishotroddy
- The problems in Eastern Germany have been there way before the refugee crisis. It's the complete lack and disregard for people who are treated like second...jmckinno
- class citizens, while companies in the West of Germany prosper. It's not like BMW or Porsche is planning on open a facility in Chemnitz anytime in the future.jmckinno
- sureshot2
- lol @ the endHijoDMaite
- Is she the only employee at the shop? Where are her co workers to lend a hand?_niko
- hahaha love it.
LOL at dragging him back in.set - She's a fucking legend haaha.HAYZ1LLLA
- GeorgesIV4
- ahahhah, real proof!D4W33D
- HahahahaSteveZissou
- Daily Mail + pre-sliced cheese = truthSteveZissou
- shaft0
- "...And the english lesson not good, bad. Teacher not do us learn."maquito
- and they do not give us iPhone 6s only 6, terrible here_niko
- if you believe this shit you are a moronfadein11
- ...and they give my son a Muller jersey, you believe this? not Messi, Muller, how we live like this? lol_niko
- I remember when some italian "reporter" got caught coatching some Romas, just say this and I'll give you money, this seems like the same bsGeorgesIV
- they are not escaping poverty, they are running from wardrgs
- As I was saying : Propaganda for stupid peopleD4W33D
- IRNlun60
Syrian refugee camp in Jordan
- horrible!utopian
- what is horrible? the situation, or the camp? It's no vacation, but this looks like a big camp with a lot of facilities. hope they have food & water!iCanHazQBN
- Burning Man?chukkaphob
- that image is nearly 3 yrs old. EU response to and failure to predict the current crisis is ridiculousFax_Benson
- ^ what he said.fadein11
- EU response and failure to predict? The EU govts did this purposely to destroy your culture. NWO. No borders. Same thing is happening in the US.Hayoth
- shut up you idiotFax_Benson
- georgesIII3
May be it's true,
BUT... once again, this kind of idea forbid muslims and ourselves to think about muslims own responsibilities...
gonzalle--
Do we live on the same planet, open google maps right now and see which countries from the middle east hasn't been attacked, had democratic government deposed or destroyed and had dictatures installed by the west,
for fucks sakes Libya was fuckn 3 years ago and look at it now, did it feels like they Libyans have gained anything, do you think they are happy with what they never asked for?
But it's ok, the west should not apologize for creating this situation, only the people suffering for the destruction of their society should apologise,
this is such a weird train of thought I can't even comprehend it.
Syriah > Ukraine > Yemen > Libya > Irak > Afghanistan > Iran > Sudan > > Somalia the list is long
I can post this link > http://www.globalresearch.ca/a-t…
you can go through it and tell me again how the victims should be the one to take responsibilities,
isn't what SJWs call victim blaming ?
- <fadein11
- Right... You'r absolutly right... Our governments messed up the whole planet.
Our governments. Not me ! (And don't tell me I elected them)gonzalle - Whatsoever. Does this mean that terrorists have the right to kill my people ?
Does this mean that I don't have the right to want to crush their head ?gonzalle
- OBBTKN0
Finally, someone who does something against ISIS:
Russia appears to prepare for airstrikes in Syria
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/09/2…- Strategy for their ass, not against issis.D4W33D
- Obama wont be happy. ISIS will actually get bombed this timeDillinger
- that's the thing about Russia, motivations aside, they can do whatever the fuck they want and not fear any bullshit backlash_niko
- they can do whatever the fuck they want because they were invited to do so, instead of supporting and arming rebels/isisGeorgesII
- Russia just sets up a safe proxy war with the US to flex their muscles. It has little to do with Syria's well-being.ETM
