Graphic Design is dying
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- set2
No it ain't. Next thread..
- utopian0
dead?
- pango4
Everything is dying.
- sarahfailin5
Garphic design lives!
- Zarrir0
Apart from graphic design, there are a lot works are dying. Like interpreter which might be soon replaced by AI tech.....
- Life moves on. Things change. Such is the nature of reality...set
- I dont think so, context is crucial. People who need interpreters or translators will still value them as always, this tech only means that common folk canMiguex
- have access to basic translation services, but it's no replacement for the real thing.Miguex
- That might be true right now but of course technology will replace that one day...set
- Bennn0
"Online graphic design startup Canva is now worth $1 billion"
http://mashable.com/2018/01/09/c…
Canva is getting bigger and bigger. Pick from thousands of free
templates for every occasion... No need to hire and pay a graphic designer anymore! YAY! https://www.canva.com/print/- as read on their website: "Thanks to Canva, everyone can be a designer"Bennn
- Sites like this make it harder for the bottom 30% of our industry. If your clients actually think this is a good replacement for you, you were doing a shit job.noneck
- and they weren't worth having as clients in the first placehans_glib
- It's true, everyone can be a designer. But good ones a rare, great ones even more so.monoboy
- I got a call last year form a startup with a Wix website looking for help. They'd spent weeks tweaking the fuck out of it and it was a total mess.monoboy
- But it's free he said. Hmm, and how many billable hours have you spent on it I ask. Oh, er. erm. £5Ks worth as it happens.monoboy
- The problem here isn't the tech. It's the fact that everyone 'wants' to be a designer and they haven't the first clue about how long it takes to do a good job.monoboy
- Are we talking about graphic design or web devoloment here?monospaced
- ^ canva does it allGnash
- I’m sorry, but isn’t this just graphic designers making money?monospaced
- Meh. If you’re threatened by this, maybe you’re in the wrong line of work.monospaced
- Templates, templates everywhere....Wish every career became as automated and accessible.Maaku
- monoboy0
Professional work is being commoditised because people are expensive. We all want more, faster, cheaper.
It's the free-market way.
The only way to win is to make sure you don't have to work to earn. Using money to make money instead.
Otherwise, it's gonna be tough out there.
- hans_glib0
monoboy said "It's true, everyone can be a designer"
no they can't, not without training, and not even then is it guaranteed they'll have any aptitude.
design is about a lot more than just laying shit out in a nice way, (which is what i'm assuming canva does).
you need to be able to understand what the message is and how best to communicate that message.
- Bennn0
I'm looking around on upwork.com to find some freelance work... This is probably the most popular website out there to find work in various catergories. There's a lot of jobs available BUT the budget of the companies/people posting job are ridiculous! Just an example, "i need an illustrator to create 10 icons for a website based on the drawings i've made - Budget: 15$" .... A logo, budget 5$ ... A products catalogue, budget 50$ .... Multiple photo retouching including upscaling not large enough pics (!) and changing background, budget: 20$
Fuck that!
- 20 banners design for 100$
yeeeah!Bennn - on upwork you have to build up some reputation to access the bigger projects.sted
- freelancer.com offers better options for quick money, but competition is huge.sted
- this is the open market. It makes sense if you're living in vietnam where $300/month gets you pretty far._niko
- 20 banners design for 100$
- Bennn-1
"My company ########. We are wholesale distributors of fresh produce in midwest. Some of the products we trade are Banana, onion, oranges, potatoes, watermelons, and others. We are looking for a company to design a website for us.
Featured Job
$100
Fixed-price
"A website for 100$ ?
Seriously?- they must think you'll work for peanutssarahfailin
- or bannasrattail
- Go off the shelf, free template, done.i_monk
- any designer who takes this job is supporting these shit business practices, even if they use a templatemonospaced
- I know, just saying it's fairly achievable compared to other examples posted here.i_monk
- Bennn-2
LOLLLCANO
700-900 pictures of wedding photography work to edit, retouching, skin smoothing, etc.
Expected turnaround time of 24 hrs... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Editing 900 pictures in 24 hours!
FUCK YOU JOHN!
- Do an action on all of them?section_014
- Set facemonNom
- Capture One is your friend.Morning_star
- Bennn-4
One of the client history:
65 hrs @ $3.33/hr
Billed: $216.4712 hrs @ $1.70/hr
Billed: $20.401.70$/h !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 3.33$/h ???????????????
- started selling your ass on fiverr or what have you done to accomplish such a nice rate? I remember working for $1.25/h, i was 17 and an idiot, don't be like mested
- its not my numbers, its what a client paid on his latest job to designers on upwork.comBennn
- That's a nice wage if you're in Nigeria.zarkonite
- never go sub $2 bruhhhhhArchitectofFate
- Bennn-4
on freelancer .com
''Build me a website and mobile application''
I want an online store where I can showcase and sell locally made products and an app.Project Budget (USD)
$250 - $750FUCK OFF TONY!
- Why are you telling Tony to fuck off?
Tony didn't come to you, you went looking for him.soundofreason
- Why are you telling Tony to fuck off?
- Bennn-5
LOLL
again, on freelancer .com
''Design a multiplayer online game''
Project Description: I need to build a website with online multiplayer games.Project Budget (GBP)
£20 - £250So you want me to design and code you a multiplayer online game on a website, for 20$ ?
- Have you considered that real design jobs are found elsewhere and that freelancer.com isn't where graphic design "lives" in the first place?monospaced
- £ not $, much more monieshans_glib
- lol hansmonospaced
- pablo280
"Love this website builder. ❤️I was managed to create a simple landing page within 20-25 minutes. Normally that process took me 2-3 days with my designer."
producthunt. com/posts/weblium-2-0
- lol, there's Webflow that makes it really easy to make anything web and ppl still pay web designers to make for them anything web. Web design is actually hard.grafician
- Had tons of discussions "I need a quick website/why don't you use Squarespace/Oh, but that's too hard" so yeah...grafician
- ...no matter how many tools exist and how easy they are to use, people are lazy and will always pay someone to do the jobgrafician
- Bennn0
"The End of Professional Photography?"
article: https://medium.com/@robert.rittm…
and: https://www.thephoblographer.com…
- -Now read this and apply it to Graphic Design:
"The article centers around the fact that all things in the technology world start out strong with early adopters going on to make huge sums of money,
followed by the masses who buy the same technology as they want a piece of the pie, which then leads to the early adopters offering to teach the newbies everything they know for a chunk of change, and then the industry dies due to overcrowding.
The author likens the world of professional photography to desktop publishing and web development, both of which apparently suffered this fate.
In fact he says that once people begin to offer services that will help teach others, it’s game over."I'm not saying he's right, but it's true that graphic design and photography are not only for real professionals anymore, lots of persons jump in the boat and improvise themselves as pros, and this is devaluating the profession
- There's probably a larger market for professional photography(and video) now than every before. Sometimes increasing supply increases demand as well.monNom
- Just look at Instagram, it's insatiable.monNom
- lots of enthusiats and good amateurs on Instagram, dunno how many real prosBennn
- Nah if it just means tons of all-the-gear-no-idea dingbats doing gash work, leaving decent designers to fix it all, bring it on.MrT
- * I claim no decency.MrT
- ... the same arguments were being made when Kodak came out with roll film. No one predicted the rise of photo-journalism, it will go on you just have to trustzarkonite
- the creativity of artists. The masses just follow trends and then quit out of boredom.zarkonite
- Well, it's kinda hard to say you're a pro with 1 year experience or less...grafician
- ShenanigansTV2
Wasn't sure the best place for this, but this was the first thing that fit when I did a filter.
- There were no standards for style, format, etc. in the world of Flash; it was an open canvas. BUT it was a drain on performance/battery... It HAD to go.ideaist
- The iPad killed flash and web design.i_monk
- Boring design is what people want. Simple boring and functional. Flash was just weird glitch. 'I like what you've done, but could you make it AS BORING AS FUCK'PhanLo
- it was a great time to be creative back then, good timeBennn
- true. Multimedia fun stuff is a drain on the battery, but it's also a blast. Now it's how can I make a bank transfer from my phone? I miss Flash and also print.nuggler
- I think if you look at https://www.awwwards… and comparable sites awarding various components of todays web design, you'll see some exciting stuff...ideaist
- ...NOT as fresh or timely (maybe) as flash once was, BUT exciting none-the-less.
: )ideaist - Utopian posted this article last week.utopian
- Bad choice, you should have waited until today.ShenanigansTV
- Loved it in many ways, but flash was a huge pain to do text-based content, particularly attached to a cmsmonNom
- milfhunter3
adapt or die