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Didnt see a thread for it, and obviously SPOILERS.
Anyone here see it? Its pretty obvious they made the thomas wayne character out to be an evil trump-like figure, and the entire movie kinda takes a shit on where america is today with the political divisions, and the divide between the wealthy and poor/middle classes.
I liked the movie but didnt love it. Todd Phillips did his best Scorcese impression but I still had a bunch of problems with it. I didnt like some of the popular music choices in it. Like when he first becomes the joker and is dancing down those steps, they are playing like this music you hear at baseball games. WHY?? So bad. Also the whole thing with the talk show was so dumb. Why was arthur invited on that? Because hes a horrible comedian? Felt so shoehorned into this.
It was good. Phoenix is one of the best actors around.
Quite refreshing to see a film reflecting current times, like the 1970's US cinema. Good or bad (I haven't seen yet) at least it's trying harder than 90% of the drivel coming out of Hollywood right now.
The other 10% has been encouraging though, perhaps we are entering a new era?
It embraced and exposed the evil of the Democratic left. Also mirrored democratic policies in NY, Seattle, San Francisco.
- HAHAHA... The evils of the 'democratic left'necromation
- Pelosi the Marxist?fadein11
- < faceplam >Bluejam
- Embrace him...He is our very own special kind of guy.utopian
- Necro, what do you call Antifa and the disasters happening in those cities?Hayoth
- Is this a political thread? Yes! Well to begin the left IS the devil. They want socialism, no guns and they all cry when their bitch ass nominee isn’t elected.irrelevant
- Oh, and btw Trump2020irrelevant
- says the trollmonospaced
- Troll? Bro, I’ve been here since the beginning and just stating FACTS. Can you disprove anything I’ve said?irrelevant
- How did you see the movie?
- Nothing you said is true. No need to prove that. Lol.monospaced
- Just like I thought, you must be a bitch ass leftist.irrelevant
- evil, such a 20th century term loljaylarson
- Somebody please change irrelevant's diapers. I'm not sure if they're child or adult-sized, but the whining is annoying.garbage
- saying the left want socialism and no guns, is like saying the right want slavery and white supremacy government. small minded moronic view of the world.inteliboy
- oh yes, the joker and his brother clowns looks much like the average right wing personfeel
- I’m a bitch ass leftist because I don’t believe in satan, like you do, and am able to report the fact that there are no socialists running for any office?monospaced
It was pretty okay, but it could have been so much better with just some small tweaks.
Phoenix was great. No surprise there.
Gary Glitter getting rich again off of this flick.
I felt my money was well spent. Saw Ad Astra the other week and wanted my fucking money back but this, this was a good movie.
Felt the music was great, didn't know whether the Gary Glitter track was purposefully controversial or not, i'm gonna guess that it was. And, when 'White Room' kicked in, well, RIP Ginger.
Cinematography was cool, and i liked that fact that we didn't need to see the abuse of young Arthur to give his mental health credibility.
As a comment on todays society?, i felt it captured some of the meetoo/anonymous spirit quite successfully. And it reflected the demise and insignificance of terrestrial TV through DeNiros ultimately cruelty.
Overall, better than your mum, not as good as your dad.
I personally thought it was pretty good, especially given the state of cinema these days. It was a bit of a sleeper cell in the same way funny games (the English speaking remake) was. People who may have been expecting another “superhero” flick might have found themselves blindsided. But then again, maybe they saw the wrong things they were supposed to see. All told I thought it was pretty solid. Stole/borrowed a lot from 70s cinema but in a good way. Having grown up with that stuff I wasn’t insulted or otherwise. He’s not an auteur but all that said, did a good entertaining job.
Incredibly well made and acted. Absolutely brilliant for a comic book movie.
It's the best film I've seen in recent years
Also seeing young bruce wayne in this movie, and the fact that they are already making a batman movie is kind of hilarious. Just goes to show that DC is winging it with these movies. Not really a set plan because if there was, obviously these would tie together, but they cant now.
Problem is Joker is older in this movie. Mid-late 40s, and bruce is a young kid, so by the time bruce grew up to become batman, joker would be like 70 lmao. Timeline doesnt work out at all. Missed opportunity to do something cool mixing the 2 movies together for a sequel at some point.
- maybe. Young bruce could be 14, joker could be late 20s (he's had a hard life). So not that unreasonable to have a batman being 25 and Joker 37.Morning_star
- People who care about every little detail will never fully enjoy a film. Its a movie about a fictional character - enjoy it for what it is.desmo
- Is the movie really supposed to tie-in with the rest of the DC cinematic universe, or is it more of a one-off piece?ETM
- There is no way arthur is in his late 20s in this movie lmaoCygnusZero4
- Batmen age faster because of sciencenb
- Maybe the joker then inspires another generation of Jokers? I like how it left so much to interpretation and didn't treat the viewer as an idiot - unlike MarvelIanbolton
What a pile of shit... I never understand people need to make comics 'more' real... I don't read comics for 'more real'
I've never been more bored with a movie in ages!
- I hear you. These moving, talking pictures are the devils work. Like me, are you also scared of the horseless carriages in streets.Morning_star
- I walked out in the middle, fight me :)helloeatbreathedrive
- Pistols at dawn it is then, you Cad. :)Morning_star
Heavy tho. Definitely not a feel good movie.
And I don't think everyone should watch it.
Neither a comic nor a psychological thriller.
A common origin story that gives not much more than Phoenix's performance.
It was amazing. The fact it WASNT a super hero movie is actually what made it better. Broken people dealing with broken things.
If you didn’t like it, then, well maybe you went into the wrong cinema
- huh... it's the FUCKIN JOKER! He is a comic book villain! Based on what you said it just be John, Tom or Bob... why would i watch a movie about Bruce Wayne if..necromation
- if he doesn't become Batman? I'm lost man... i grew up reading these guy (dc & marvel) and hate this need to normalise this stories... just pisses over the fansnecromation
DeNiro was throw away tho, Rob burgundy would have been amazing
Several of my friends watched the movie. They all said the same exact thing...brilliant performance by Phoenix. But a lazy boring, "I heard this before" story.
Its not a superhero movie. There are no superheroes in it. Its one of those weird movies that doesnt really have a main protagonist or antagonist. Arthur is kind of both. In the beginning youre supposed to pull for him I guess, but then he starts becoming evil later on, but it almost never feels like he becomes that evil. More like he was pushed by the world into doing these things. I dont feel like he becomes the true Joker in this movie that just kills for fun.
There just needed to be more there though. I really wanted him to rob a bank or something first. Not jump straight into kill people. He doesnt even really kill that many people anyway. Whole movie was weird as hell.
THought this was an interesting take.
"Although Joker is a quintessential comic-book villain, the movie focused on his human side and portrayed him as a product of a toxic environment. The true villain in this movie is mass media which gave Joker all the praise and attention he always craved – but only after he murdered people.
Media turned Arthur – a nobody – into Joker – a somebody. And the gullible people, those who consume mass media with no discernment, turned that Joker into a political leader."