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- grafician-2
"Prognosis
Virus May Spread Twice as Fast as Earlier Thought, Study Says"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/a…
"At the rate of spread calculated in the study, some 82% of the population would need to be immune, either via a vaccine or because they’d already had the disease, in order to stop the virus from spreading, the Los Alamos team said. Without such protection, high levels of social distancing will be needed if more than one out of five infectious people is undiagnosed, the authors said."
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So yeah...the R0 is double at about 5.7 (or even more)
- grafician-2
"Business
Michael Burry of ‘The Big Short’ Slams Virus Lockdowns in Tweetstorm
The investor, who also has an M.D., says the economic costs of the pandemic response are too high."https://www.bloomberg.com/news/a…
"Michael Burry, the doctor-turned-investor who famously bet against mortgage securities before the 2008 financial crisis, has taken to Twitter with a controversial message: lockdowns intended to contain the coronavirus pandemic are worse than the disease itself.
Government-directed shutdowns in the U.S., which led to millions of job losses and may trigger one of the country’s deepest-ever economic contractions, aren’t necessary to contain the epidemic and have disproportionately hurt low-income families and minorities, Burry argued in a series of tweets over the past two weeks. He also said some controversial treatments for Covid-19, such as the malaria drug hydroxycloroquine, should be made more widely available."
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The article is very interesting, coming from this guy.
- grafician0
WOWOWOWOWOWWOW!
This guy!
"“This is a new form of coronavirus that emanated from a country, China, that unfortunately covered it up. That was the original sin. It transmits very easily, and within the first month it was likely all over the world. Very poor testing infrastructure created an information vacuum as cases ramped, ventilator shortages were projected. Politicians panicked and media filled the space with their own ignorance and greed. It was a toxic mix that led to the shutdown of the U.S., and hence much of the world economy.”
“In hindsight, each country should have immediately ramped up rapid field testing of at-risk groups. But as I understand it, the CDC was tasked with some of this, and botched it, and other departments were no better. The bureaucracy failed in a good number of countries. Turf wars and incompetence has ruled the day. So the political cover for that failure on the part of the technocrats and politicians is a very harsh stay-at-home policy.”'
^Same article
- Yup, violence is getting worse by the day. Even more people are dying at home after being rejected by the hospital. Something has got to crack.robotron3k
- politicians too scared to mess up so they'll mess up even more! grrrrrgrafician
- Thought it was just a flu Bobo?PhanLo
- Phopho u know Bobo tinks it's all fo sho...robotron3k
- lowimpakt-3
- To be clear, that is a state owned cemetery and has been used to bury unidentified bodies for over 100 years. It’s not new in any sense. Not news.monospaced
- Nothing to do with trump. Not a ton to do with corona virus except that there are more deaths.monospaced
- Trust me. Nobody is just dumping bodies in there like Nazis. There is nothing nefarious about this. AT ALL.monospaced
- My bad, I should have checked context. Apologies to trump.lowimpakt
- But really. This isn’t some scary thing or anything weird. It’s just business as usual unfortunately. Lots of unclaimed bodies :(monospaced
- This really should t be upvoted. It’s click bait for people just looking to make a deal out of nothing. It’s unnecessary fear mongering too.monospaced
- Learn about it.
https://www.nytimes.…monospaced - Thanks Mono.lowimpakt
- My father sent me links about this too acting like anyone who dies would be dumped there. I had to explain that wouldn’t fly.monospaced
- On rare occasion you make insightful sidebar comments mono.robotron3k
- Something that can’t be said for you.monospaced
- This is the media doing what they do best.Chimp
- It really is. No matter what side you’re on we are all in this together and it’s important to avoid stoking unnecessary fears or hatredmonospaced
- Interesting that they transitioned from using inmates: https://theintercept…R_Kercz
- https://i.imgur.com/…maquito
- sted-1
- ?Nairn
- how to id the fake vs real CE logosted
- Yeah, sorry, I saw this before your other post. I'd say that's intentionally close and not easy to discern in a rush.
Naughty cunts.Nairn - Am I to assume we're looking at the real CE mark here?Continuity
- what are you looking at is what happens when you copy a transparent png to the clipboard from firefox and paste it directly into imgur.sted
- kingsteven4
Preliminary serology study results of 500 patients from Gangelt (one of Germany's worst effected municipalities) demonstrate IFR of 0.37
Interestingly the report also suggests that the initial viral load may dictate the severity of the infection/ outcome. ie. being exposed to a small amount of the virus or better hygiene reduces severity.
https://www.krankenhaushygiene.d…
Another study shows that deaths of "People <65 years old and not having any underlying predisposing conditions accounted for only 0.3%, 0.7%, and 1.8% of all COVID-19 deaths in Netherlands, Italy, and New York City."
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/…
So, if I average that to 1% and using an IFR of .37 - if your healthy and under 65 your chance of dying from covid-19 is something like 1 in 30,000?
Early days, but if this is all confirmed globally I imagine we'll see massive changes to lockdown procedures for <65's
- The whole Viral Load thing's been mentioned a lot over the past few weeks - makes sense, give the sort of people getting bad cases of itNairn
- Indeed. What many have said from the beginning. It’s not a death sentence to most people.monospaced
- Pfiu!grafician
- yeah, its nice to see 'best-case' scenarios backed up by testing. in the german study they are being quite conservative about the estimate.kingsteven
- the viral load/ severity thing has many implications. including variolation (the method they used to inoculate against small pox) before the vaccinekingsteven
- webazoot2
‘So much living to do’: stories of UK's coronavirus victims
Personal details have emerged of more than 70 people who have died in the Covid-19 pandemic
https://www.theguardian.com/worl…
Hard reading.
- Very sad reading. They all seemed like regular people.shapesalad
- It's probably just because of The Guardian's slant on this, but I'd be interested to see this weighed against ethnicity.Nairn
- Seems like there's a high % of names in here that are 'non-anglo' or whatever.Nairn
- robotron3k1
Country—Cases per million of population—Deaths per million of population:
Spain—3,358—339
Italy—2,375—302
Belgium—2,301—260
France—1,804—187
Netherlands—1,348—147
UK—959—118
Switzerland—2,822—114
Sweden—959—86
Ireland—1,331—53
USA—1,420—51
Portugal—1,517—43
Denmark—1,005—43
Austria—1,498—35
Germany—1,411—31
Norway—1,152—20- Difference I'd say with the US, and perhaps I'm being overly-simplistic, is that against all those other nations, it's much bigger physically. Spread = TimeNairn
- + all these countries have functioning governments and reasonable citizens that agree with the measures introduced to curb the spread - for now at leastgrafician
- True Nairn. If you isolate just NY State it looks more like a single country. And rightly so.monospaced
- I'm so horrified by what I see in NY, as much as I know what's happened in Italy and my own country, etc. I hope this leads to massive positive change.Nairn
- reporting so different between countries... thousands of care home deaths not reported in the UK. italy and spain attributing everything.kingsteven
- You have like an eighth of our population and half of our deaths. I don't know what's going on there, but it's terrible.Nairn
- they're saying NY may be first to herd immunity. so tightly packed in and to little distancing measures too late. + pollution/ age everything going against NYkingsteven
- The US is 50 'countries'
You need to run reports on all states individuallyKrassy - @krassy - yeah, that's exactly why NY's tally is so terrible.Nairn
- @kingsteven - so NY is the first area to get to some kind of balanced normalcy with C-19 prior to immunisation?
If so, a bit scary. If not non-obvious.Nairn - Yep reporting different between countries, France also not reporting care home death, weird********
- You might find hard to believe but 1/3 New Yorkers are on some sort of welfare or disability. Many ill people live by the services so there is that.robotron3k
- It's also category of death by the doctors. Death from covid19 vs death and the also had covid19. There needs to be clarity.robotron3k
- https://pbs.twimg.co…neverscared
- Don't get it why Belgium as higher death per million than France, more people have died in France, way more********
- @i_was because France has 6 times more people than BelgiumKrassy
- oki, thanks********
- USA is surprisingly high on that list considering how giant it is. European countries are tiny in comparison = easier spread.inteliboy
- Though of course robo is looking for any kind of narrative to suck his orange leaders dick further.inteliboy
- Nairn3
"Mafia distributes food to Italy's struggling residents"
- Mrs Nairn's fam are in southern Italy, aren't they? Have they been exposed to this?Continuity
- Middle Italy, and no - as far as I know, not directly. Yet. They were on the periphery of the 'red zone' way back when.Nairn
- such good people with big hearts.utopian
- monospaced2
This is what I was talking about the other day.
"Within a period of a week or so, we're going to have a rather large number of tests that are available," Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said on CNN's "New Day" Friday morning.
Having antibodies to the coronavirus could mean someone is protected from getting re-infected, making such tests important for medical workers and others on the front lines fighting the pandemic.
- is this the same Dr. Fauci who doesn't like HCQ used off label and now wants to pretend some imaginary, unproven flu technology is better?robotron3k
- No. It’s the one who is a top medical professional and expert in communicable diseases just like this. The one you are thinking of is only for science deniers.monospaced
- Dr Fauci hasn’t mentioned an imaginary flu technology because none exists expert in the minds of brainwashed conservative right wing CUNTSmonospaced
- mono how do u feel about cdc and fda fuck up and limiting testing?********
- qoob-2
Coronavirus May ‘Reactivate’ in Cured Patients, Korean CDC Says
- might be problems with the testing, highly unlikely otherwisegrafician
- Or, this is the gift that keeps on giving, and can't be got rid of until we get a viable vaccine.Continuity
- to reinfect it needs to mutate more rapidly than our antibodies can be created after infection - highly unlikelygrafician
- not really new news, and kinda good news in that they were attributing reactivations to people getting infected twice from different strains. (didnt read)kingsteven
- also, fuck bloombergkingsteven
- grafician0
Apple and Google are building a coronavirus tracking system into iOS and Android
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Potentially a huge step forward in the fight against COVID-19https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/…
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- But but but vaccine microchips!_niko
- What could go wrong.PhanLo
- Yikes.nb
- Not at all like big brother.Chimp
- Theres an app in Singapore that now tracks who you visit via bluetoothinstrmntl
- not allowed in the supermarket without the app, if u dont have an smartphone u get an key.. the rightwing part of the austrian government part suggested aneverscared
- yeah, no.Krassy
- couple of days ago.. mandatory. now they rowed back ... for a similar app like in singapore they use.neverscared
- This requires someone infected to enter in that they are infected. Not sure how accurate this will be.dbloc
- Good idea in theorydbloc
- Black MirrorBennn
- noPonyBoy
- more info https://twitter.com/…grafician
- Icke was right.MrT
- Corporations helping authoritarian governmentshotroddy
- huge step forward in the loss of privacy you mean righternexbcn
- Typical story- governments fail to use our tax to protect us. Morons. So now it comes down to us the people giving up our quality of life.inteliboy
- You are kidding yourselves if you think government doesn't already have the ability to track you this way.yuekit
- You commis cheer like sad surfs!Hayoth
- ok boomer.inteliboy
- Friends in S.Korea said that this tracking had recently been used there.bezoar
- @bezoar
the source is available on githubsted - short comic to propose opensource solution :
https://ncase.me/con…GrosDoigts - If Apple and Google released an app that told you whether you're going to have a heart attack in 2 years, would you use that?Ianbolton
- like yuekit said—it's already in play in your phone and has been for years. Conspiracy: It's just now 'they're' hoping you'll openly accept it... even WANT it.PonyBoy
- ian... are you making a comparison of sorts? cuz what you're saying isn't really apples to applesPonyBoy
- If this takes off in Western countries, they will do it by making it "opt in" at first. Then slowly more and more services will require that you "opted in"yuekit
- dbloc1
- freshKrassy
- Zestyshapesalad
- Bet he speaks mandarinFax_Benson
- @Fax_Benson lolKrassy
- nb-1
As of Friday April 10, 2020 the official global death toll is over 100,000.
One hundred thousand people.
:(
- neverscared2
this looks like a true maga boy
- looks over 65 with underlying health conditionskingsteven
- fat man deserves all he gets.shapesalad
- Bottled water is so wrong too.monospaced
- lets not forget who subsidizes such #rascallife styles********
- capitalism don´t forget, rich expoiting the wage labour.neverscared
- universal health care and universal basic income coming sooner and sooner, that crisis is a turbo for it.neverscared
- ? Capitalism doesn't support it. But u are right your goals of gov exploiting labor is coming. Maybe see how us docs like wages similar to other countries********
- PhanLo3
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- Ramanisky22
- 90% of the country: "You know, he's right. This IS a brilliant germ."mandomafioso
- Who's president is this?!grafician
- President of the nations most retarded cuntsmonospaced
- Holy shitnb
- Dunning-Kruger: the countryi_monk
- Robo and hayoth standing a meter apart, taking turns kicking each other in the nuts, yelling "TRUMP" after every boot. That's who's president this is._niko
- Yeah. That’s what I said.monospaced
- trump university must be the place.neverscared
