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  • nb1

    FLORIDA alone is currently reporting more Covid-19 deaths per day than the entire country (incl Florida) was reporting just a couple months ago.

    Death trend: up

    • Tweets & Prayersutopian
    • waitwait that makes no sense :Dsted
    • more than the entire country? :Dsted
    • Yeah. & day average today is 363 for Florida.
      Back in June for entire USA was 350 then down to 270 by end of June.
      Fuck!
      microkorg
    • It makes sense but it also doesn’t make sensenb
    • what do you think those numbers mean other than trite: "wear a mask" or "get vaccinated"pr2
    • ?pr2
    • When the dying was lowest? Maybe
      https://www.worldome…
      https://www.worldome…
      drgs
    • Weird because I thought Florida had natural immunity from last year. I guess the idiot who said that was wrong.monospaced
    • An idiot also pointed out that this is only .05% of the population and we really shouldn’t be treating it like a big deal.monospaced
    • An idiot might also argue that it’s mostly old people so really it doesn’t count at all. I hear like .0000001% die from the vaccine so we should focus on thatmonospaced
    • This can’t have anything to do with the governors position on covid and his blatant anti vaccine and mask policy. Not at all.monospaced
    • The science shows that this is probably just the flu and cars are more dangerous. Do you stop driving? No. Idiots.monospaced
    • where the f do u guys get your "facts"? Florida shows 40 people dying per day - not 250.pr2
    • In Florida 429 people died from covid on September 17. 7 day average is 353 deaths per day.monospaced
    • Real question is where you get yours.monospaced
    • Florida under
      @GovRonDeSantis
      is now less than 7,000 deaths from surpassing all American deaths during the ENTIRE Vietnam war.
      neverscared
    • https://twitter.com/…neverscared
    • pr2 just making up numbers nownb
  • Ramanisky20

    See if you can wrap your mind around these maths

    https://twitter.com/crazymotherj…

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  • sted2

    Deaths involving COVID-19 by vaccination status, England: deaths occurring between 2 January and 2 July 2021

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepop…

  • yuekit2

    Another virus very similar to SARS-CoV-2 discovered in bats in Northern Laos

    https://assets.researchsquare.co…

    This is probably the strongest evidence so far that the virus emerged naturally through a process of slow mutation from animals, just like scientists have been saying all along.

    • We've gone full circlegrafician
    • It’s easier to believe it’s manmade, that we are all in control somehow. Rather than the dark brutal chaos of life.inteliboy
    • Thanks FauciAQUTE
    • But but joe rogan told me otherwise!_niko
    • we're still doomed!!!!MrT
    • KILL ALL THE BATS!mg33
  • yuekit2

    I always thought the irony in all this debate over SARS 2 origins is that the "lab leak" is depicted as this apocalyptic scenario. When in reality it would probably be the easier problem to solve. Lab safety regulations can be rewritten, certain kinds of research can be banned.

    But if there are thousands of similar viruses floating around in nature and constantly recombining...as seems likely...and humans are cutting down forests on an industrial scale and hunting wildlife to extinction in exactly the part of the world where these viruses are known to circulate...good luck! There will almost certainly be another outbreak within our lifetimes.

    • I should dispute all this, but I just don't feel like it anymore...grafician
    • Will just say that just because these viruses are present in wildlife doesn't mean they can jump easily to humans! that's the trick pony you nudge in a lab to..grafician
    • ....to see "what if"

      then if that leaks - the world, beware
      grafician
    • IF the virus started in Laos, it would be very fast stopped but it originated in China - the worst of all places and here we are...grafician
    • But viruses do jump to humans all the time right? SARS1, MERS, Nipah virus, Ebola and many more...just within the past few decades.yuekit
    • Wuhan institute was collecting samples from bats in Laoskingsteven
    • I mean, not that natural transfer isn't possible but that was in the documents released a few weeks ago (freedom of info request on programmes funded by US)...kingsteven
    • @grafician Laos is one of the poorest, most undeveloped states in Asia and quickly becoming a client state of China.yuekit
    • It would be entirely unsurprising if a new virus began circulating in Laos or Cambodia or Southern China and no one noticed.yuekit
    • Yes yuekit they sometimes jump, but we squash easily the outbreaks as there are no coverups, no delays, etc. we let science work, but not this time with Chinagrafician
    • Official numbers are over 4M dead, but probably the real numbers are over 20M by now and counting...massive waste of life that could've been preventedgrafician
    • Well yeah exactly...we have no idea how many died, in places like rural India it could be underestimated by millions.yuekit
    • But people think an unknown virus with symptoms similar to other diseases would be picked up by a developing world government?yuekit
    • I'm not saying this completely rules out lab leak, but that part never made sense to me.yuekit
    • i've always suspected the conflation of 'lab-leak' and 'lab created' in the media as part of a move to discredit the idea of accidental release from WIVkingsteven
    • Yeah I get what you're saying...it was definitely conflated by the media back when they just wanted to dismiss it entirely.yuekit
    • The thing about WIV collecting samples from Laos or elsewhere is that very few of them will result in an actual live virus capable of infecting people.yuekit
    • https://twitter.com/…yuekit
    • yep, that's what i'm suggesting. the virus collection would have been a few years before so it would have to be... i doubt we will ever know if that's the casekingsteven
    • but i don't think until we trace the mutations between a bat virus in Laos and Wuhan through other means there's sufficient evidence to rule it outkingsteven
    • The research was only BSL-2 level labs and the database of collected bat viruses (incl. Laos) was dumped in September 2019 is a smoking gunkingsteven
    • ie. gain of function research would have been high security and authorised by FDA. to study and create cultures of stored viruses... that's everyday lab workkingsteven
    • I think what she’s saying is that most of these samples are just some genetic material. It’s not the same thing as having a collection of live viruses, and inyuekit
    • most cases very difficult to isolate or reverse engineer an actual virus from the sample.yuekit
    • So you have to ask what is the chance they stumbled across the exact virus capable of starting a global pandemic in a cave, already preadapted to infect humans.yuekit
    • They successfully recreate the live virus from the sample, and then proceed to accidentally release it in their own city...yuekit
    • As opposed to the virus slowly adapting to infect other animals and then humans over time in nature.yuekit
    • there are theories and studies of RNA virus outbreaks that suggest that they evolved at a consistent rate while frozen. i'd love for them to prove naturalkingsteven
    • transfer, but to rule out the possibility of lab release at this stage would seem ignorant of how little we know about outbreaks emerge (however unlikely)kingsteven
    • Yeah definitely agree it can't be ruled out. I guess my skepticism comes from the fact that a lot of "evidence" that is commonly repeated for lab leak, if youyuekit
    • really research it in detail, often it falls apart or at least it's not as presented in the media.yuekit
    • For instance the thing you mentioned about the database being taken offline...this seems to all be based on one guy on Twitter noticing that according to ayuekit
    • "database monitoring service" on the Chinese internet, one of WIV's databases was no longer accessed outside China after September 2019.yuekit
    • Seems to me that could mean any number of things, and yet this actually made it into the GOP's report on the origin in the USA. They even propose the leakyuekit
    • happened in September, all because of this random bit of information. And there is a lot of stuff like that...yuekit
    • it's pretty well documented what happened the guys behind the paper (where the GOP lifted a lot from) is quite critical of China/US/EU handling of the situationkingsteven
    • it's also been shown a lot of the commonly spouted claims on how / the frequency viruses jump species is totally incorrect by experts in the fieldkingsteven
    • The 'DRASTIC' report on the WIV's databases is free on researchgate if you fancy a read of itkingsteven
    • Yeah I was actually discussing this with some of the DRASTIC people on Twitter...yuekit
    • It's impressive that they dug up all this info and propelled the story into the media. But at same time I got impression some of them have a conspiracy mindset.yuekit
    • And there were some weird things I noticed. For instance that paper refers to a virus database that supposedly existed at http://batvirus.whio…yuekit
    • But if you search on archive, backlinks in Google etc I can't find any evidence this page ever existed at all.yuekit
    • there are a few archived pages where the db was referenced with an earlier date but those pages themselves have been archived after the start of the pandemickingsteven
    • and the database itself seems like it would have been password protected - given the data is said to be the same as other pathogen dbs but with more metadatakingsteven
    • from collection and more recent data from WIV it's unlikely it would have been indexed (just looked for some of my public pages from university and they aren'tkingsteven
    • showing on google or archive either even though the URLs are circulated within emails/pdfs/VLEs... but yeah would like more proof on that myselfkingsteven
    • You can also search historical DNS records and there is no record of any "batvirus" subdomain.yuekit
    • interesting that the lancet chose to publish an article effectively reversing its stance on the likelihood this weekend too. hoping that doesn't make the mediakingsteven
    • in the same way as the last article (which spawned the lab leak/ lab made confusion) and leave it up to science to prove what happenedkingsteven
    • What you do see on Archive is that they actually launched a virus database site at a different URL in late 2019, and it stayed up until mid 2020.yuekit
    • I obviously spent way too much time looking into this BTW but I just was curious if I could dig anything up :)yuekit
    • At the very least it seems like no one actually knows which database was put up or taken down for what reason, and yet the media just ran with it.yuekit
    • haha, amazing. just had a nosey because i didn't know it would be possible to look up subdomains and found this https://imgur.com/f8…kingsteven
    • obviously later again, but an IP in the same range as the other related university sites. i guess if the data exists it may come to light at some pointkingsteven
    • Wow interesting...what did you use to look that up though? I tried a few different subdomain lookup tools and it showed other subdomains but not that one.yuekit
    • What I noticed is that by end of 2019 the WIV added a "virus database" link which goes to this site:
      https://i.imgur.com/…
      yuekit
    • But it's unclear to what extent this overlaps with the "batvirus" set of data. This page was hosted on a different site called the Basic Science Data Sharingyuekit
    • Network but if you look at the attribution it says data is from WIV. So I started wondering if they just changed approach as happens in these sorts of projects.yuekit
    • this was the lookup tool, but yeah i can only see dates before 2020 relating to the construction of the db https://securitytrai…kingsteven
    • and nothing really to confirm the correspondence relating to its withdrawl. it is funny (given public security concerns) how much academia is a black holekingsteven
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  • scarabin5

    The photo:

    • But what are they saying to each other?Ramanisky2
    • NutstrodomusAQUTE
    • *Thou hast swole genitals to label myself a nonce!
      *And pray, what are thou actions against it?
      *Bartholemew, halt this speak! Thou art inebreated!
      Akagiyama
    • 'you're sacked!'fadein11
    • Ric FlairOP31
    • Guy on the left just fell for a deez nutz jokescarabin
    • I'm nuts for your long ass finger!Percrushin
    • lol @aquteBeeswax
  • AQUTE-2

    • this shit is so toxic. notice that it's all the privileged western countries carrying on like children.inteliboy
    • what the fuck are they protesting exactly? I've watched minutes of this and I have no idea.sarahfailin
  • Gardener6

    • Has to be a joke.PhanLo
    • found hayomookutopian
    • loli_was
    • pr2GuyFawkes
    • Scietists say NO!AQUTE
    • Definitely a joke. A saw a post where his wife clarified because he was getting skewered.Gucci
    • Subtle tribute to the guy holding the “Get a Brain Morans” signyuekit
    • has to be a qbnerhans_glib
  • whatthefunk2

    • MAGA Mook Logicutopian
    • Not long until Fox News picks up this story lolnb
    • Oh no they're onto usGuyFawkes
    • blaming everyone else for their own decision... smhpango
    • LOL Trump vaccine. Yup it was aaallll Trump. He's the one that made it happen.
      The world would have no vaccine if not for Lord T
      Projectile
    • And the rest of the planet is in on it? Americans are so oblivious.i_monk
    • no they aren'tmonospaced
    • Own the libs by NOT owning the libsFNP14
    • Breitbart has just been absorbed by the left and is in on the lies. This is more of their propaganda.

      Do Not Take The Vaccine.
      palimpsest
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  • Ramanisky20

    Update: her brother also died.
    But vitamins.

    • Add essential oils and a gluten-free diet and you're practically inmortal.palimpsest
    • According to some ass clowns, the best defense against COVID is to get COVID. If you don't survive, that's okay, you took one for the team.monospaced
    • also, FDA did not approve vitamins for COVID ;)monospaced
    • I take some of these vitaminsdrgs
    • Could be wrong, but I believe these are included of any generic multivitamin. Also in a healthy diet.monospaced
    • A healthy non western fast food diet. Eat some fruits and veggies that aren’t deep fried ffs_niko
    • we all either had covid or will get it, why not be prepared in the best way possible?pr2
    • Best way to avoid covid is by getting covid.
      100% of vaccinated people die.
      Do your own research.
      palimpsest
    • How do you know we're all getting covid?
      Did the libs put Oprah in charge of handing it out?
      palimpsest
    • pali, the avalanche of data tells us that. how the hell you can even questions it, did you put your head in sand the last 18 months?pr2
    • lol, see?monospaced
    • hey pr2, if I get covid, it won't be a big deal because I'm vaccinated. That's called being prepared in the best way possible.monospaced
    • @niko, not all western food is fried, lol, seroiusly?monospaced
    • @pr2
      Heather's research doesn't say that. She's also not saying to get COVID. She's saying to take VITAMINS. That's the truth.
      palimpsest
    • I'm not as smart as you are, it's difficult having to juggle all this information. My head wasn't on the sand, I've been looking at the research.palimpsest
    • If I wear a mask and avoid other people with COVID, I can avoid contracting it, pr2. The data tells us that. Did you put your head in the sand?monospaced
    • ^ My data shows you're a cunt faggotbabydick
    • social distancing is the only method that stops the spread. mask = hahaha! seriously, 18 months into pandemic and you keep on spreading this nonsense.pr2
    • you are protected because in NYC you HAD conid. How many fucking times do u want me to repeat this statistical truism??? oh, i forgot, u don't believe in stats.pr2
    • *covidpr2
    • pr2 logic is wiiiiildnb
    • @pr2, I did not contract COVID when I lived in NYC, or in the last 15 months since I left. Guaranteed.monospaced
    • Neither did my wife or child. Because we wore masks, washed our hands and distanced according to the science.monospaced
    • well, i double guarantee you had covid because unlike your love of anecdotal evidence, i love stats.pr2
    • my cunt faggot comment was aimed at pr2, that cunt faggotbabydick
    • the pick below is you you babyd.pr2
    • out here with the double guaranteesnb
    • When your research has double-blind studies you get double guarantees.palimpsest
    • have ever guys hear of this thing called CDC? or is CNN your best source?pr2
    • You’re wrong. I never had covid. The actual science that tested me multiple times proved that beyond a doubt.monospaced
    • Anyway, if you’re all about having immunity, why not get the vaccine? It gives you protection, and if you do get covid you get even more.monospaced
    • There is no double blind study that exists that proves almost everyone in nyc for covid. You’re an idiot.monospaced
    • "double blind study" to prove who had covid? God, man, you are fucking clueless.pr2
    • You said it, moron. Not me. Clueless fuck that’s what you are. Double guaranteed.monospaced
    • “cunt faggot” really necessary, babyd?maquito
    • This is great.palimpsest
    • maqu - of course notbabydick
    • I'm a cunt myself, but at least I know itbabydick
  • PhanLo0

    Every photo tells a story
    -

  • utopian0

    • ok butnb
    • Quite impressivePhanLo
    • Kinda misleading in that there are 3X as many people today compared to 1918. That being said, 'mericarobotinc
    • Don't worry, America still has time to catch up to that population growth! COVID's just waiting for the Rs to get back in power.zarkonite
    • 3 times more population now, but, it's not over yet... Sad!!OBBTKN
    • The 1918 epidemic lasted 4 years so there's still time. Also the Spanish flu was more deadly too.PhanLo
  • BusterBoy0

    Spotted at a Union rally here in Melbourne yesterday.

    Any takers?

  • kaiyohtee-5

    This calculator lets you estimate COVID risk and find effective safety measures for customizable situations.
    https://www.microcovid.org/

    • post something helpful get downvoted. fuck yeah qbn!kaiyohtee
  • sted2