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- ghostpancake6
- hahaha :Dsted
- why you had to use a fake account for thatsted
- so i can retreat in shameghostpancake
- lolmonospaced
- Is that nairnscarabin
- SFW spill overAQUTE
- sarahfailin0
I've spent the last 2 hours trying to "knock out" the atom shape but I can't get anything to work! can somebody help? it says there are no intersecting paths.
I tried going to appearance and reducing opacity to 0% and then clicking 'knockout shape' to no avail. Also I am guessing that it will be hard to make that fading tail end gradually transparent?
- Fading tail is straightforward, just not intuitive! It is AI after all...
Here it is made with a gradient stroke.
https://jmp.sh/x0GXj…MrT - i will be at the office in an hour, will check on these things.
what is it that you call "knock out"?sted - in print you don't actually have "transparent". so this gradient you have always goes from black to white.sted
- you got 2 options: set the opacity to 0 at the white end (this will turn it on every background to black to transparency)sted
- or leave as it is and fade the white into a less hard end.sted
- for shapes you can't "knock out" transparent objects. it will be always the same vector (currently outlined circle)sted
- also don't use 100% black/white to achieve this type of transparency. like MrT showed, 100% black to transparent fade is the right way.sted
- but idk how the AI file currently looks like so just ignore my bullshit ahahahasted
- lol yep, it's 100% black to 0% black. If your AI is old the gradient stroke feature might not be there. It's been in for 10 years+ though IIRC.MrT
- 'knock out' like? https://99designs.co…ghostpancake
- ^nvm, realised you're using pathfinder. are you trying to intersect a line and not a shape, maybe? turn a stroked line into a shape: object>path>outline stroke.ghostpancake
- (also bear in mind i am not skilled at illustrator and am responding mostly out of guilt for posting the above reworking of your logo.)ghostpancake
- Fading tail is straightforward, just not intuitive! It is AI after all...
- sted0
- circle fading out without a bg (or on any bg)sted
- The logo symbol reminds of this.
https://i.imgur.com/…utopian - yeah, this is what I'm looking for. I have an idea of how to do it now and I'm making progress!sarahfailin
- sarahfailin0
OK! so here's the new design, polishing up what ben started with the feed back from the QBmittee. This first one is my preferred design...
this second one has a little bit thicker electron tail.
The nucleus of the atom is centered within the circular stroke of the electron tail, rather than centered between the bottom of the electron and the stroke, which makes the nucleus seem a smidge high to me. But I don't really like it when it's not in the center of the circle, so I guess I'm keeping it here.
Any thoughts?
- #2) When the logo is reduced in size the electron will read better.utopian
- I think separating the electron/atom from the wordmark is a good move. The tail looks slightly blueish as it fades.BaskerviIle
- Next I'd suggest you start using the logo to mockup real world applications to see it in situ. This well help you test if it really holds up at different scalesBaskerviIle
- Not sure how you plan to use it (twitter profile pic, posters, banners?). Also, if you were referring to me, my names' not Ben :)BaskerviIle
- dude! i'm so sorry. somehow I read your name and thought it was Benn! Thanks so much for helping me on this!sarahfailin
- And I did leave the electron trail slightly blue... Idk I kind of like secret color in it. maybe it's not a good idea?sarahfailin
- Ha, no worries. Keep us posted. Want to see where you end up taking thisBaskerviIle
- So Baskerville is Bennn?utopian
- sarahfailin-1
So my board decided on this name, which I actually like better, but I'm sticking with the same design. Curious if you all have any notes on these two arrangements for it.
Illustrator says the horizontal orientations are centered, but they feel off to me, curious what ya'll think. Including the black versions so you can see the edges better. Colors are still TBD.
- Is “the” the same size as “collaborative?” If not, it should be. And you can tighten them up. Optically space them so it feels right. Be careful.monospaced
- Your kerning is all over the place. Please work on that.monospaced
- Yeah all text is 75 point. It doesn't seem possible to have all the letters line up vertically because of the I'ssarahfailin
- This is still my favorite variation so far...sarahfailin
- I never said anything about lining anything up. Are the top and bottom lines the same size type? Will you fix the shit kerning?monospaced
- I just said "all text is 75 point" so yeah, same size. The kerning on the horizontal versions is all 155, so idk what you're talking about.sarahfailin
- don't trust the machine, you have to do it by eye is what he meanshans_glib
- sarahfailin-2
- lots of space needs a linested
- like this?
THE | CURIOSITYsarahfailin - horizontal
verticals separate.sted - but it's just something out of the 312565135 variations i would try at this point.sted
- This is awful. Sorry. And your kerning is still a mess. :( better off stacked in the last direction.monospaced
- thanks mono-- i'll try making it less awful! why didn't i think of that?sarahfailin
- gaah that fucking wordspacehans_glib
- BaskerviIle1
Hmm, 'Collaborative' as a noun? Not a big fan of that (I know it's probably out of your control). What about Collective?
I wouldn't go with justified for a logo....that gap is huge. Set it all left-aligned (or centred if you must).
Upside of the name change is the electron/atom now makes more sense as you have a C dominant name. The symbol feels a bit floaty on the far right though.
- Have you considered changing the name to something elsenb
- it's somewhat common in the nonprofit sector. the board already voted on this name :)sarahfailin
- thy not "the curious collab"sted
- @sarahfailin so it stays. :)sted
- ^ then it seems like we're some peculiar hiphop mashupsarahfailin
- :)) truested
- thy notnb
- sarahfailin0
- almost therested
- my eyes are still bothered by the line spacingsted
- you think it needs two more atoms to the left stacked vertically and centered?sarahfailin
- nah just bring the two lines a bit closer, it looks like they hate each othersted
- I'd be brave and just go with the typographic wordmark, then use the symbol elsewhere. It's not adding much where it currently is. Either hero it or remove it.BaskerviIle
- Typically a symbol sits on the far left...or centred. It's unusual for it to be on the right. It's also of comparable scale to the type so they fight somewhatBaskerviIle
- I think the centred versions above work better :)BaskerviIle
- +1 for the centred versions. On the right, the solid part of the icon's line appears to hide/shield the nucleus from the collaborative.MrT
- helpful comments! thank you all!sarahfailin
- go with the centred versionhans_glib
- sarahfailin1
But don't you need a horizontal version of your brand mark as well as a vertical? I need something for the header of our website, for example.
I could just abandon this horizontal design, but then I guess I have to design my website and everything accordingly?
- utopian0
- the endsted
- This is why I come to you guys! Thanks utope. This post cured my cancer.sarahfailin
- Swipe Rightutopian
- sarahfailin-3
- Final version?
i really appreciate y'alls feedback and attention on all this. we're a rinkydink nonprofit with barely a thousand dollars to our name currently, and so this means a lot for us. I think we're doing better with this than a lot of groups do with similar resources (or even more resources...).
The interest and slight ability I may have in design is seriously because of you all and what I've gleaned from all the lovely content, crass opinions, and random bullshit shared on this forum. Seems like maybe I'm the only one on here who's not a real designer of some kind, but for better or worse I can say I was educated on QBN.
- hmm, seeing it here i think the kerning needs a little work. i really want those I's to be stacked. should i give up on that?sarahfailin
- It’s always nice when those little details can workGnash
- Oh my eyes
kerning much!
And the name is too fucking long man, plus staked like that looks busygrafician - This version was good, just needed a bit of kerning work
https://imgur.com/zS…grafician - Don't forget to evaluate how friendly this will be small screen/favicon/onlin... use, and create the necessary versions.evilpeacock
- @graf, I also like the vertical one, but don't you think I need a horizontal version? Isn't it typical to have multiple versions?sarahfailin
- the name isn't gonna change, y'all. sorry we didn't consider graphic design when choosing our name...sarahfailin
- Yeah, well, you can still short it "The Curiosity Co." maybe?
And yes, the symbol is top, I think it works very well!grafician - Not sure I understand your meaning here. Shouldn't I have a horizontal AND a vertical orientation for our logo?sarahfailin
- I posted 2 versions, horizontal and vertical lockupsgrafician
- Yes, you should have a "stacked" and horizontal treatment. you can also do abbreviated versions based on the "bug".evilpeacock
- grafician-11
- nb0
Not to be a jerk here but the mark is very similar to the Reddit app loading graphic