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  • yuekit1

    It's amazing how within the space of a single year, Zuckerberg single-handedly managed to ruin the concept of "Metaverse"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sn…

    • The fundmental difference being that Stephenson's vision wasn't a fucking walled garden. It was more like "MVTP://" gateway linksNairn
    • But yes, you're quite right :)Nairn
    • Think he made it after Ready Player One, at least that's his vision anyway it seems

      He should've made it open source from day one but Zuck is not that smart
      grafician
    • Does Zuck have any self awareness?utopian
    • Does Zuck know that he's a living meme?utopian
    • when you're touching the lives of so many worldwide, you gotta take a lot of responsability - over the years he confirmed again and again he's just a techbrografician
    • The whole thing just seems like an expensive vanity project... no one was able to tell "Zuck" it wasn't a good idea.yuekit
    • I still think VR has potential but if anything they set it back a few years with this Metaverse nonsense.yuekit
    • I’ve heard some anecdotal reports from people saying things like “My kids basically live in the metaverse. They spend all their free time in a VR mask”nb
    • Maybe a bunch of middle-aged men (us) aren’t the people to predict whether tech will be adoptednb
    • VR also gives people motion sickness so...grafician
    • VR doesn't give people motion sickness, the technical limitations do. This is being diminished with each iterationrobotinc
    • this narrative change happened right around the time apple changed up user tracking and 3rd party cookies stopped being a thing. Facebook’s business was...monNom
    • mortally wounded, but “what if we had some kind of shiny bauble for investors to get excited about?” Maybe we could be valued like a startup, instead of as a...monNom
    • Mature ad business that just lost the entire basis for its pricing power. You can get valued based on ‘What ifs’ instead of revenues. At least for a while.monNom
    • Pretty sure Tesla autopilot was the same thing. No robo taxis in the foreseeable future, but in the mean time, it provided cover for production to spool up.monNom
    • ^ all thisgrafician
    • There are robo taxis now in California.ShenanigansTV
  • utopian1

    • Shit like this is why I'm all in on ETF's. This pretty close to their IPO price, I think.section_014
    • this post didnt aged well as of today, January 8th 2024 lolHAL9001
    • META is at 360$HAL9001
  • PhanLo1

    Made the base for this in Womp, then doodled all the shapes in Gravity Sketch around it, then you can jump around in the world in VR or in the browser.
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    https://www.spatial.io/s/elphs-N…
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  • i_monk0

    Everything about virtual worlds as landscapes seems to double down on it being just like the physical world and refuses to take advantage of the fact it isn't. It's 3D hyperlinking as topography, it's post-scarcity by default, it's massless and unbound by gravity.

    Instead of the 3D hacking seen in 90s movies, these metaverse peddlers give us flat terrain from horizon to horizon, subspaces occupying space on the landscape, and you have to walk across it all manually in a massless avatar with legs glued to the floor.

    • It sort of has to be, if you have to sell it to the masses.jagara
    • The Metaverse is a hot mess!utopian
    • If you take away the virtual horizon and let people fly, they get sick and throw up.monospaced
    • Nonsense jag; we didn't need to sell the masses on links, which defy the conventions of books and letters.i_monk
    • A virtual horizon doesn't need a flat fake terrain. Where is the z-axis in these spaces? Perhaps full VR is a dead end, but maybe AR can salvage this.i_monk
    • The metaverse is misunderstood. It's not a 3D second life thing. It's *Everything* boiling down to lines of code and data.shapesalad
    • You sit a computer clicking buttons to earn money. You get paid, but it's not cash delivered to a vault, it's 01's in a computer. you pay online/via phone.shapesalad
    • You call and message online, you date online, you do everything online and pay with effetely crypto - even if it's £ and $'s, these days it is digital ledger.shapesalad
    • You don't need to plug your face into a VR headset to exist in a virtual landscape.shapesalad
    • Without the 3D/VR aspect it isn't a landscape anymore than the WWW is a digital autobahn.i_monk
    • We’ve done a lot of testing. If people aren’t grounded they quickly report feeling dizzy. Having a visual environment that’s “grounding” helps a lot.monospaced
    • This doesn’t mean you can’t have a z axis. Just means you might avoid them flying around in an environment that can cause disorientation.monospaced
  • PhanLo0

    • ... two hours later "Decentraland is a farce and a tragedy" ... a decent watch, best viewed in small dosesBluejam
    • ^yepPhanLo
  • autoflavour4

    I know its not entirely the fault of the Metaverse.. but is anyone else sensing we are about to have a Web 2.0 crash .. twitter is fucked, facebook/insta is currently being fucked.. what's left? TikTok?

    been reading articles from 2001 this afternoon about all the companies that went down in dot.com bust v1 ...
    feels super familiar timing

    • https://www.youtube.…utopian
    • Capitalism is fallingpablo28
    • most tech companies turned into a ponzi schemes with abrupt valuationsBeeswax
    • Yes pleasedrgs
    • US about to cancel TikTok so seems they are all fuct lol.microkorg
    • I welcome it.jagara
    • About time. Get that trash outta here.dibec
    • Not quite. Most of these companies were on massive hiring sprees for years. If they hadn’t taken such risks, they’d have fewer to layoff now.nb
    • The thinking was, “get as much talent as we can, regardless of cost” and now economic slowdown suggests we won’t need them.nb
    • Social media engagement has also been falling for a while nowChimp
    • Yes, the market is slowing, engagement and advertising is slowing. But also, meta won’t be smaller (employee count) than it was years agonb
    • Keep in mind, these companies don’t sit outside the stock market. They make up a big part of it.nb
    • HUGE difference is Meta has boatloads of cash to burn. Dotcom it was all promises. That said, the promise of VR was almost the same then.formed
    • I worked in real-time 3D back then. I got a nice chuckle how people were saying the exact same thing with graphics that are almost identical!formed
    • Don’t get social media mixed up with tech in general. All medium to large ( and many small) need tech. 100k openings for cloud programmers and only 20k availtoemaas
    • facebook's valuation was always daft and propped up for years by aquisitions that it's driven in to the ground farming users for ad revenuekingsteven
    • it has brought nothing new to the table and it's eventual collapse 100% inevitablekingsteven
    • I can't understand why this would at all be anything to do with FB's Metaverse bullshit. That's ass about face, with FB having long seen the writing on the wallNairn
    • Long live Web3!%sted
    • Die internet, diedrgs
    • I think metaverse was a distraction for a train they saw a mile away. 3rd party cookie/customer attribution is what made them so valuable. That's all going awaymonNom
    • We’ve just had a decade of dirt cheap money. Capital cost nothing. Interest were super low. Money went to tech and crypto. Now it crashes.shapesalad
    • Rinse and repeat. Fed and central banks all repeat the same mistakes over and over.shapesalad
    • Is said long live Web3!sted
  • sted2

    Today I’m sharing some of the most difficult changes we’ve made in Meta’s history. I’ve decided to reduce the size of our team by about 13% and let more than 11,000 of our talented employees go.

    • We all hate Meta but it’s sad about layoffs. You cannot watch the monster fall without seeing some of your people crushed under the weight of it.nb
    • 100k people to run that shower of shite?hans_glib
    • sted, I'm sorry for your company. Better times ahead bro. Keep the chin up.NBQ00
    • "Legs are coming soon! Are you excited?"Bluejam
    • H-1B holders could very well be fucked. I think they'll have 60 days to get a new job or they are kicked out of the US. Some have built lives here for years.bulletfactory
    • So... get rid of the talented 13%, keep the lazy incompetent 87%.shapesalad
  • NBQ001

  • nb6

    WSJ is reporting that Meta will lay off thousands of people this week

    • "They can all go to the Metaverse, dumb suckers." - Mark SuckerbergNBQ00
    • prompt?utopian
  • NBQ001

  • Noggin0

    • no one is going to want to do that photo realistic avatar thing. Mii style, super low poly is the way to go.shapesalad
    • besides the possibly uncanny valley creepout effect, why?jagara
  • PhanLo2

    • it's losing 2 billion a month? why? cause it's whack as fuck. so is Zuck that cuck fuck._niko
    • there's no cool factor walking around with a goddamn vr set on your head, you look like a complete tool._niko
    • When they decide to bin it, Google+ style HAHAHAjagara
  • shapesalad0

    No idea how to embed a instagram video, this is hilarious:
    https://www.instagram.com/p/CiS4…

  • yuekit0

    Company Documents Show Meta’s Flagship Metaverse Falling Short

    Horizon is designed to be a sprawling collection of interactive virtual spaces, or worlds, in which users appearing as avatars can shop, party and work.

    Yet there are rarely any girls in the Hot Girl Summer Rooftop Pool Party, and in Murder Village there is often no one to kill. Even the company’s showcase worlds, such as Questy’s, a virtual arcade featured in a Super Bowl commercial earlier this year, are mostly barren of users.

    According to internal statistics, only 9% of worlds built by creators are ever visited by at least 50 people. Most are never visited at all.

    “An empty world is a sad world,” said one document summarizing the company’s efforts to herd users toward venues where they would encounter others.

    https://archive.ph/I6ODD

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  • yuekit2

    A key issue with Horizon’s development to date, according to Shah’s internal memos, is that the people building it inside Meta appear to not be using it that much. “For many of us, we don’t spend that much time in Horizon and our dogfooding dashboards show this pretty clearly,” he wrote to employees on September 15th. “Why is that? Why don’t we love the product we’ve built so much that we use it all the time? The simple truth is, if we don’t love it, how can we expect our users to love it?”

    In a follow-up memo dated September 30th, Shah said that employees still weren’t using Horizon enough, writing that a plan was being made to “hold managers accountable” for having their teams use Horizon at least once a week. “Everyone in this organization should make it their mission to fall in love with Horizon Worlds. You can’t do that without using it. Get in there.”

    https://www.theverge.com/2022/10…

    • Sounding like a cult more and more...grafician
    • corporate cults are rampant. LinkedIn is an example of that.tank02
    • what I've been saying all along. the novelty wears off pretty quickly.hotroddy
    • Maybe they’ve got better things to do like go out, catch a band, see a movie, go for a run, grab a bite, go on a date, get laid?_niko
    • Or even rearrange their sock drawer, clean the tile grout, unclog the sink, get a jump on next years taxes, repaint the house, hang out with your mother-in-law_niko
    • Or a million other things that are more enjoyable than the fucking metaverse_niko
    • Way, way back in dev people were talking about how weirdly obsessed Zuck was with the project that nobody else seemed to care about, because it's lame as fuck.garbage
    • Yup_niko
  • sted7

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  • PhanLo0

    ffs
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  • mort_5

    What year is it?

    • why can't the metaverse be a world in which ONLY Mark Zuckerberg exists inside and the game is to keep him alive? Or dead? Collect data on that!Ianbolton
    • LOL Ianmort_
    • or a place where he continually dies horrible deaths at the hands of the users?
      upvote your favourite offing!
      thoughts and prayers to the losers!
      hans_glib
    • so feminine looking avatar. and creepy.shapesalad
    • GTA is the actual metaverse.ApeRobot
    • I hope Metaverse Meta succeeds and IRL Meta shutters operationsnb
    • I'd put 20€ down on that freak Zuckerberg wanting to evade death by trying to transfer his consciousness into this shit sandwich.Continuity
    • I'm still of the theory that he sees his as a convincing facsimile and he's created a perfect mirror world, but only because he's so boring-looking in real lifegarbage
    • Eiffel tower and la Sagrada Família in a supermario-esq field. They are digging deep for that euro audience. Should have made zuck a mime to complete the look.monNom
    • Needs more Antoine de Caunes & Jean Paul GaultierBluejam