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- Classic.Continuity
- Yep, this was done for our local trains here in Melbourne.sab
- Aw ❤️maquito
- canoe5
Punches For:
Do I have to say it twice?
QBNers who aren't up for the critical thinking game.
For example, "...Trump is popular means A LOT of Americans are stupid..."
SMH. That's some confirmation bias bullshit with an absurd amount of oversimplifcation. You lack to understand the complexities of why people vote and that makes you look like the trailer trash dumbfucks you think you're above.
And it makes me question whether you even know anything about your profession! Everything we do has an audience, a target market that we distinctly develop communication for to get them to act. If your beef is with MAGA, or the Republican party, or the Florida education system, or whatever then make your argument otherwise, the headline, "America is stupid" is hyperbolic, falls on deaf ears, and has the reverse effect if you're going for that smart-cool-talented-designer-thi...
- You had me at critical thinking.palimpsest
- "America is stupid" is hyperbolic.
"Trump supporters are stupid." is the truth. What would you say about flat earthers? Stupid is in our language for a reason.CyBrainX - @CBX, "Trump supporters are stupid'" is just as hyperbolic. I'm interested to know what you think a US citizen should do if the fundamentally disagree with...Morning_star
- ...Kamala/Dems. Should they not vote?Morning_star
- *theyMorning_star
- not hyperbole. it is quantifiably "stupid" to vote for trump... as a woman, an educator, a doctor, you are actively voting against your interests / healthimbecile
- Thank god all US citizens are either women, educators or doctors.Morning_star
- well at least 74 million people are stupid :)_niko
- That's less than a third of us. Another third doesn't vote and that's an act of stupidity to begin with.CyBrainX
- Wait a minute...palimpsest
- @canoe Would you agree with the statement "people who vote for Trump do not see that he doesn't even remotely have their best interests at heart"?.mort_
- Also @canoe, do you think some voters know this but are voting for some kind of strategic reasons?mort_
- I agree that calling them stupid and demonising them is not the way.mort_
- "I love the poorly educated."
-Donald Trumpfooler - I agree that demonizing them and calling them stupid is not a good strategy if you're a politician but I'm not and those people won't be persuaded anyway.CyBrainX
- Historically Americans vote by party.canoe
- Would you agree that voting blindly by red / blue party allegiance shows a complete lack of critical thinking?mort_
- "those people" < there's your problem, right there.Morning_star
- No, it doesn't. You choose one side or the other.palimpsest
- Thinking it's the same thing shows a lack of the "critical thinking" you so much value.palimpsest
- https://upload.wikim…maquito
- Was that directed at me @palimpsest?mort_
- I'm talking about voting red because my family always votes red, regardless of changes in policy or leadership that may be damaging to that voter.mort_
- Yes, @mort
"Would you agree that voting blindly by red / blue party allegiance shows a complete lack of critical thinking?"palimpsest - Right - see prev replymort_
- I think there is a certain level of critical thinking but even more there is an emotional part that shouldn't be overlooked. Ultimately, they r not the same.palimpsest
- Yes, different parts of the brain. The tribal need is very powerful.mort_
- Drink structured water, that should solve it.palimpsest
- I think we are not saying different things. Emotional needs can be irrational and interfere with critical thinking.mort_
- Florida is again ranked #1 in the nation for education. So much money going into Florida schools right now since all the money is moving into florida.hotroddy
- Florida schools don't waste time teaching you what pronoun you want to be when you get older.hotroddy
- pretty stupid suppositions in this thread. when shown not hyperbole, argument changes, vote blindly? in the US? impossible. trump is shit no matter the party.imbecile
- Hotroddy to the rescue.palimpsest
- @Canoe, I hope the irony isn’t lost on you. You criticize making broad generalizations, yet you then generalize Florida and MAGA supporters as 'stupid.'hotroddy
- There are individuals on your side of the debate who oppose merit-based policies, which is a key reason we're facing this challenge in the first place.hotroddy
- @hotroddy What school "teaches you what pronoun to use when you grow up"?
I know what states ban books, even math books, probably because of Jeebus somehow.CyBrainX - Thinking beyond political tribalism...
https://whiteeaglevi…mort_ - “The biggest single, best predictor of how someone’s going to vote in American politics now is education level.”yuekit
- https://edition.cnn.…yuekit
- We didn’t make it up, less educated people really are voting for Trump in droves. Less educated doesn’t automatically mean stupid of course but Trump really isyuekit
- the candidate of the poorly educated as he once said.yuekit
- "less educated" is a proxy for working class, which the democrats abandoned long ago. This is why Dick Cheney and Goldman Sachs support the Dems.monNom
- and why Trump's commitment to reshore manufacturing, and reduce illegal immigration are appealing to the working class.monNom
- Still doesn't mean "Americans are stupid" nor does it mean that "Republicans are stupid"... shit is Dennis Quaid stupid?canoe
- because they are not stupid. They know that low-cost labour (overseas or at home), undercuts their ability to bargain for fair paymonNom
- Trump's economic plan would be terrible for working class people actually.yuekit
- https://www.forbes.c…yuekit
- https://www.cbsnews.…yuekit
- https://www.piie.com…yuekit
- Conservative and liberal economists disagree on a lot of things but they are all seem to agree on this. The kinds of things you're talking about sound goodyuekit
- as a campaign slogan, that's why it's called populism.yuekit
- More terrible than exporting all the jobs they can, and importing migrant workers to fill the ones they can't? Not sure I buy that.monNom
- One perspective is that a flood of new workers helps to suppress a wage-price spiral, which it probably does.monNom
- but that doesn't say anything about whether workers might actually be better off in an environment of rising wages, even with fewer cheap imported goods.monNom
- The unemployment rate is currently only 4%. The USA is doing quite well compared to the rest of the world.yuekit
- Just because less educated people are voting for Trump doesn't mean they are doing it because they're poor or because their job was outsourced.yuekit
- I think in the past, workers tended to retain more of their productivity as wages. A return to domestic manufacturing would likely tip the scales back.monNom
- You keep mentioning things that more like campaign slogans... Trump's gonna magically bring back jobs and we all live happily ever after.yuekit
- There is a resurgence in domestic manufacturing but it's not only Trump that is responsible for this. And his specific concrete plans like the tariffs,yuekit
- supply and demand isn't a magical concept. You reduce supply of imported goods through higher prices, you incentivize the domestic production of those goods.monNom
- more tax cuts for the rich and mass deportation of immigrants are terrible.yuekit
- There is a lag as you build capacity, and prices rise briefly as a market signal, but in a short time replacement goods become available from local sourcesmonNom
- It's also not magical that if you aren't producing those goods domestically or if it costs more to produce domestically, then prices will go up!yuekit
- and competition leads to stable and declining prices.monNom
- Look at what happened with Brexit...there were similarly simplistic feelgood arguments being made about how it would be a good thing to leave the EU.yuekit
- Now a majority of the public thinks it was a mistake and the UK is projected to decline in terms of GDP until at least the mid 2030s.yuekit
- These are neither simplistic nor feelgood arguments. They are economic policies that tend to distribute more wealth to the working class instead of wallstreetmonNom
- Trump is proposing huge tax cuts for the rich along with massive tariffs. The tariffs are like a consumption tax...they end up falling on the poor and middleyuekit
- class. You should look at the details and not just this vague impression of what Trump will do.yuekit
- Something left out of your scenario is that those same poor and middle class are seeing their own market value rise along with rising prices.monNom
- Without tarriffs or other equalization, goods are cheap, but labour demand is slack. You end up in a place where a whole generation can't afford a house.monNom
- I haven't seen a single economist suggesting tariffs are a good solution. It really does seem to be a personal fixation of Trump's.yuekit
- The point being, there's a rational explanation for Trump's appeal. It's not all stupidity and racism on the part of the people most harmed by current policies.monNom
- That's silly. Biden put a 100% tariff on electric vehicles from China. It's one of the common tools to manage trade, discourage dumping, and protect industries.monNom
- But didn't we just talk about how these policies might not actually be rational? One poll I saw the other day said people's #1 concern was high prices...yuekit
- And in the same poll they also support Trump's plan for a 20% tariff on all imports. So literally supporting the thing that's going to do what you don't want.yuekit
- And the difference is Trump is proposing a 20% tariff on everything, not targeted at specific industries.yuekit
- Are rising prices still the top concern if their take-home pay is rising faster? Import goods might be up, but food, houses, and energy are made domestically.monNom
- Even the policy itself sounds pretty stupid doesn't it?yuekit
- Not if you are incentivizing domestic production, which creates a lot of jobs and prosperity for the working class.monNom
- Why do you think so many economists are saying it's a terrible idea?yuekit
- Why does the lawyer say his client is clearly not guilty?monNom
- The problem is there doesn't seem to be any deeper thinking behind this at all...Trump is just obsessed with this idea and he's the person GOP hasyuekit
- decided they'll follow on everything.yuekit
- Are seriously suggesting economists are all biased?yuekit
- https://leaders.com/…yuekit
- The cost of making an iPhone in Americayuekit
- "Are seriously suggesting economists are all biased?"
lololmonNom - are you seriously suggesting Santa Claus does not exist!?!monNom
- I work with economists from time to time. They have wildly different opinions, and biases, just like everyone else. They even have different philosophies that..monNom
- are often incompatible. Economics is more art than science in many ways. And you will get a very different opinion from a Keynsian than you will an AustrianmonNom
- Sure they have different views but can you find a single serious analysis that says 20% tariffs on everything will lead to prosperity?yuekit
- And yes, sometimes those biases which tend to support a certain viewpoint will be supported by others with that same viewpoint.monNom
- Austrian economics is very fringe...this isn't one of the major types of economic thinking.yuekit
- I suspect the economists quoted in the Wall Street Journal are very seldom opposed to the Wall Street zeitgeist.monNom
- Trump's spending plans will also dramatically increase the deficit, about twice as much as Kamala Harris.yuekit
- https://www.crfb.org…yuekit
- These aren't well thought-out policies, it's just him promising everything to everyone to get elected and assuming tariffs = economic prosperity.yuekit
- I think the current thinking on tarriffs is more nuanced. They used to be vilified, with the smoot Harley tariff act blamed for the Great Depression.monNom
- The modern view is different. That old theory may have been self serving of an expansionist empire that wanted to remove tariffs elsewhere to ease dumping.monNom
- Now that china is the one dumping, the arithmetic looks a bit different and tariffs are no longer to boogie man they once were.monNom
- The Biden/Harris administration is certainly no stranger to tariffs. Regardless, a "20% sales tax" is a good slogan to scare the herd.monNom
- This wouldn't just be on China, it would be on Canada too.yuekit
- It says you live in Vancouver...you gonna cheer on economic penalties against yourself? :)yuekit
- lajj5
- Why do I love this?Continuity
- No.palimpsest
- Yes.Continuity
- ooh, is it credit card sized and folds into a full on bike?Ianbolton
- If it's not a Hoi-Poi capsule I don't want it.palimpsest
- I want one but it has miserably low 15 mph, like needs to perform at a useful level of around 30-40mphprophetone
- They should make a v2 with same footprint but larger wheels and battery so it can double the mph and triple rangeprophetone
- It should be a replacement for 49cc scooters imoprophetone
- Or build a proper public transportation infrastructure.palimpsest
- Or get a tax break to buy an electric vehicle.palimpsest
- What does proper public transportation have to do with living out dreams of scootin around neo-city like you’re starring in a cool 80s animeprophetone
- If you have to ask. You can have both. Just don't get it twisted.palimpsest
- I'd feel like riding a nintendo cassette iconmaquito
- literally a ridable powerbank smhmaquito
- Those tiny wheels on motorised scooters never looked very sensible or safe to me.mort_
- maquito5
- If this was last year ... welcome back? :DContinuity
- lolmaquito
- Continuity7
QBN Out of Context Responses (QBNOoCR)
"Come back to my place and check out the patina on my desk"
— palimpsest
- Where the fun ISAkagiyama
- Aka knows what's what!Continuity
- canoe4
Punches For:
More of a wake-up-slap...
The people on QBN who sound trailer trash when they say Americans are stupid.
- ..like..canoe
- Does their name rhyme with Ben?YakuZoku
- or HAL9001?imbecile
- Immigrants are rapists, Americans are stupid, white people smell like cheesecanoe
- Don’t forget asians know king fu_niko
- we do!pango
- wait... my bad. that was impulse...pango
- Muscle memoryYakuZoku
- Trump having that much support is the only proof you need to understand there's a lot of stupid people in the USA. Seriously.HAL9001
- ^cherub
- Do I smell like cheese? I love chesse!!
And relax gringos, there're stupid people everywhere ;)OBBTKN - ^BATAKUSAI!!pango
- I don't smell like cheese, but their is a bit of a garlicky aroma around me.
Okay, maybe I smell like cheese, too.Continuity - *thereContinuity
- It's true, but Canadians like to remind you the most often. It's a deep-seated insecurity about being in the shadow of the USA.hotroddy
- uuu Americans are stupid. The general population at least.milfhunter
- Every 'merican on QBN is bright as a button!palimpsest
- Bennn, you come across stupider than US Trump voters who shop at Walmart. Just for the recordimbecile
- Americans aren’t stupid, though. We also have some of the most educated as well. It’s a huge nation.monospaced
- Americans are just the best at everything even being the worst :)_niko
- As a 'merican I have to say that a 'merican education is not the same as an education elsewhere. It's a very technical education. But that's not the topic.palimpsest
- Hotroddy, yeah we like to talk shit and poke fun but that’s just our nature, but we can parade America the great from America the Jerry springer show_niko
- We can make fun of the Trumps and the MTG’s and the Pdiddys and the Kanye’s and then televangelists and the Musks and the Tiger Kings and the rednecks and_niko
- ...every other fringe whack job group but the truth of the matter is that personally I’ve been to the US probbably 1500 or so times and not once has it been_niko
- ...anything short of wonderful, every interaction, every person I’ve met, every place I’ve stayed, everywhere I’ve eaten, every museum I’ve been to..._niko
- I spent a lot of time in the US too. I have family there. Same here, I always had fun, met interesting and smart people. Maybe I was just lucky. Too bad what'srenderedred
- happening now.renderedred
- ...just everything. From. The grandeur of Chicago to the “it”ness of New York to the coolness of Pittsburg and the beautiful decay of Detroit, to the small towns_niko
- ...of middle America and Appalachia to historical New England to the sweetness of the south, hell, I even had a great time in Florida and shit even Buffalo has it_niko
- ..its charms. Haven’t see a single shooting, an act of violence, or any other bat hit crazy shit we see on YouTube daily. 99% of the US is amazing 99% of the ti_niko
- ...time. Unfortunately it’s the 1% that gets magnified and goes viral. But it’s fine to make fun of that 1% don’t take it as a knock on the US as a whole._niko
- What makes you think our boy Ben hasn't lived in the USofA?palimpsest
- I don't think Ben has ever left Quebec tbh lol_niko
- Never left the shire as our boy yurimon?palimpsest
- This would be a good opportunity for our boy Ben to tell us about his experience on Livin' in America...palimpsest
- https://youtu.be/c5B…pango
- I feel like trumps America was kept hidden and silent for decades, and the rest of America never wanted to be associated themselves with them.monospaced
- In recent years this “silent majority” has been making us all look bad. It’s disgusting and it’s foreign to a vast majority of us who aren’t like that.monospaced
- So when someone trashes all of us because of these assholes, it’s naive AT BEST. we’re so big we might as well be different countries. Think of it like that.monospaced
- When you have a population this big you have more idiots too. It’s a bell curve. We’ve got it all here.monospaced
- having said what I said about my personal experiences, it's all an a micro level. on a macro level Americans can not only be stupid but extremely dangerous._niko
- When it comes t war, when it comes to capitalist greed, when it comes to the environment. It's the unquenchable thirst for power, for resources, for profit._niko
- And damn anyone who gets in their way._niko
- What are we even talking about at this point?palimpsest
- Generalizing what it is to be “American” I guess.monospaced
- My brother in Jesus, do you accept me as a fellow American?palimpsest
- so what are you saying mono? is there a civil war looming perhaps?renderedred
- No just on social media_niko
- grafician0
- It was the Ochi trailer btw
https://www.youtube.…grafician - And no AI I guess, just beautifully shot scenes from Romaniagrafician
- On IMDb it says the script was written by chatgptYakuZoku
- But seriously that urks me tooYakuZoku
- hang in there, its barely the beggining of all this AI thingHAL9001
- Probably not AI...just really bad CGIutopian
- Prompt?mort_
- Sad thing is, most average people can't tell the difference legit.kalkal
- tbf, there are a few shots in there that do have that sort of dreamy ethereal aesthetic so oft seen in AI-generated images.
Flick looks GORGEOUS tho!Nairn - Ai imitating art imitating ai?_niko
- or is it art imitating ai imitating art?_niko
- It was the Ochi trailer btw
- AQUTE0
- who datspl33nidoru
- MV5BMjM1NTA0NDYzM15B...elahon
- one direction downcannonball1978
- a heavy tabloid end it seems, only 31.PhanLo
- RICKY MARTINAQUTE
- A scandal was about to be released about him today, and he just "fell" off of a balcony, mmhmmYakuZoku
- Scandal? Diddy-esque?robthelad
- Pull that up, Jamie.palimpsest
- H3 was going to cover it yesterday but got distracted by some of Ethans Jew drama,YakuZoku
- You never disappoint, YakuZoku.palimpsest
- chat was saying, if H3 was going to cover this kid when they were supposed to he would have died during the segment (not sure if true, i dont follow this drama)YakuZoku
- H3?pango
- ^ H3 podcast (old school youtuber turned podcast) has some funny bits but recently its been a lot of boring internetz drama, like about this dudeYakuZoku
- PhanLo4
- That last sentence cut deep.Continuity
- the more you knowsted
- would be far too low in frequency for human to hear. the Sun's sound waves are on the order of milli-hertz. https://www.space.co…imbecile
- wowycanoe
- Life could be so much more metal.PhanLo
- W H O Astoplying
- Ramanisky24
- shakiraAQUTE
- Maria Carey?PhanLo
- Arcade Fire lead singerSalarrue
- Angus YoungYakuZoku
- carrot topok_not_ok
- Animal from the Muppets?sab
- Mylène Farmerspl33nidoru
- Jeucephoriaprophetone
- jagara6
blog
Whats the deaaal with those oversized water bottles people are lugging around? Do you really need 2,5 liters of water handy at all times?
- SYGO thread, I know.jagara
- maybe those are pizz jar.pango
- Full of ginOBBTKN
- That is an urn. It’s fashionable now to carry your loved ones around.futurefood
- drug dealer disguiseuan
- haha, I just y'day saw a very slight-looking girl coming out of a gym with a fucking bucket of water, and i wondered where on Earth she'd put it all.Nairn
- “look at me, I’m hydrated!”ideaist
- thats.... an american size medium, right?ArchitectofFate
- you are buying less plastic/aluminum canssted
- This isn’t a new thing, though. Remember Nalgene?monospaced
- tbf i carry this around
https://i.imgur.com/…
tho it's only 1L. I guess they drink more.pango - Argh it’s a generation raised by psycho over-protectors, my wife is constantly on my kids asses to lug around water like we live in the mad max dystopia_niko
- Like seriously, when are we more than 10 minutes away from a drinking fountain or a tap?_niko
- Hydro Homies + FOMOthenohero
- and the answer is yes.thenohero
- LOL @ bucketYakuZoku
- Unless you're adding some salt and electrolytes, all this water is pissing all your vitamins out! Stop the over hydration!stoplying
- Had a Nalgene until it finally broke, replaced with a Hydroflask and never looked back.garbage
- enema jugsAQUTE
- I laughed - My kiddo has a huge one called the "chug jug" - he needed it for soccer this summer for practice and games, in his case it makes sense...bulletfactory
- ... But it doesn't make sense for you, Becky in Accounting.bulletfactory
- It's again a US cultural thing...
https://edition.cnn.…grafician - In my youthful creatine stacking days benching 335lbs I needed to drink 1.5 gallons just at the gym.YakuZoku
- @_niko lives in venicested
- its a pee jarsted
- lets market it as a multiplayer pee jarsted
- PhanLo5
- https://spectrum.iee…imbecile
- ^ the more you know x 2PhanLo
- ephix6
making beats
https://on.soundcloud.com/RuFBDj…
First lot of vocals done. She did a great job! Didn’t have time to do mine tonight. Soon we record me and then produce away. Hopefully finish this song in a month.
Vocally 2:20 is my favourite thing she did because it’s imperfect.
- Awesome so far. She has a great voicecruddlebub
- It has taken on a different form than I expected though.ephix
- Very nice. Has a kind of 90s feel to it. Tricky, Portishead vibes.mort_
- Be interesting to see where you take it nextcruddlebub
- Thanks!ephix
- @ephix generally if I am happy with a piece of my art in any medium, it has been this way. a goal at the start is important but art goes where it flows.epigraph
- She can hit some notes! Can't wait to hear her voice more in the mix next round. Keep us posted!canoe
- @mort - more trickycanoe
- Nice stuff ephixstoplying
- Thanks guys, this mix was just done late on the same night so we could listen in the car. the vocals definitely need to be mixed and compressed etc.ephix
- Will eventually get it mastered too because a friend is a popular masterer. I've heard it reminds someone of Massive Attack too hahaephix
- grafician0
- Joe's always leaned left till he moved to TexasYakuZoku
- Won’t happen. They’ll never agree to not having final edit approvalGnash
- Kamala smoking bongs in the plungepoolPhanLo
- Hey so Kamaler did you know that if there were chimps in the whitehouse, they would... er... you ever done DMT?Projectile
- I don't think this one is going to happen.CyBrainX
- jaime, pull that upAkagiyama
- Nairn4
QBN Out of Context Responses (QBNOoCR)
"Don't be throwing shade on my sausage." — Continuity
- Just don't.Continuity
- that's a tech bro erection flex?renderedred
- It's to keep it from getting sunburned.Akagiyama
- mort_2
- "We need to talk about..." belongs in the Punches for thread.CyBrainX
- I don’t get itmonospaced
- The comment at the top is the reply @mono if that’s what’s not making sense.mort_
- I don’t get how a plus one is polyphobic (not a real word?) and I don’t get why this would be a concern, and I don’t get what is meant by silence.monospaced
- "Polyphobia is the fear and hatred of polyamory and polyamorous people."grafician
- And wait this was in the Woke thread...grafician
- it's also another made up term, although it's good to see Graf understand something that's not real.Ianbolton
- I feel that those polyamorous sorts are probably just as insecure as everyone else, even though they claim to be open as fuck and ultimately progressive.Ianbolton
- Polyamory is just additional and often unnecessary relationship adminIanbolton
- Changing username to Polyamorycanoe
- renderedred2
News of the day...
Revealed: International ‘race science’ network secretly funded by US tech boss
Group promoting ‘dangerous’ scientific racism ideology teamed up with rightwing extremist, recordings reveal- I want to say I'm surprised.
But, I can't.
Because I'm not.Continuity - me too man.renderedred
- does he have better erections than an 18 year-old?jonny_quest_lives
- blood boy, long evening erections is the new tech boss flexjonny_quest_lives
- libertarian/south aftrican racism networks are soo Elon/ Peter Thiel... so passéjonny_quest_lives
- @jonny LOL @erection flexrenderedred
- I want to say I'm surprised.
- bjladams15
- hi!imbecile
- I see these on Flickr all the time. I totally forgot how that got into that feed.CyBrainX
- well hello there, ben.Nairn
- Holy shit, _there's_ a name that I haven't seen a long, long time. Hi there!Continuity
- had to run down to the shopsbjladams
- Milk and cigarettes, eh?Continuity
- FINALLY A BOOK I CAN READAQUTE
- Is it scratch-n-sniff?Akagiyama
- hi!Krassy
- I'd like to punch a hole through the binding.utopian
- Cy... did you say Flickr?? Is that still a thing?Projectile
