Life in space
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- jox
Just heard on the radio that scientists have found a planet outside our solar system, similar to ours in way of size and temperature. It's possible they will find life there.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/1829…
Along with finding cures for horrible diseases, finding life on other planets is one of the things I sincerely hope will happen in my lifetime.
Do you think there's a planet just like ours, with walking talking creatures?
- neue75_bold0
I hope not... :|
- pascii0
so we forget about co2 and poverty and rock the last party before we leave to earth 2?
- Bullitt0
haha It's only about 120 trillion miles away. When's someone gonna invent warpdrives already, ffs we're slow.
It be fucked up when that day came, we found that planet, and it's inhabited by ewoks or something..
- TheBlueOne0
Do you think there's a planet just like ours, with walking talking creatures?
jox
(Apr 25 07, 02:11)In repsonse to your query, It's a Monty Python universe out there:
a) Most likely
b) walking, talking like us? No. Something completely different.
- Concrete0
This planet will be completely desolate before we have the means of traveling such distances in a realistic and practical period of time.
- phatlee0
Einstein's Wormhole Loophole
If humans can't travel to the stars, many scientists say extraterrestrial life can't come here either.
However, Michio Kaku, one of the leading theoretical physicists in the world, says many scientists are too quick to dismiss the idea of other civilizations visiting Earth.
Einstein may have said nothing can go faster than the speed of light, but he also left a loophole, said Kaku, a professor at the City University of New York. In Einstein's theory, space and time is a fabric.
Kaku explained: "In school we learned that a straight line is the shortest distance between two points. But actually that's not true. You see, if you fold the sheet of paper and punch a hole through it, you begin to realize that a wormhole is the shortest distance between two points."
A civilization that could harness the power of stars might be able to use that shortcut through space and time, and perhaps bridge the vast distances of space to reach Earth, he said.
"The fundamental mistake people make when thinking about extraterrestrial intelligence is to assume that they're just like us except a few hundred years more advanced. I say open your mind, open your consciousness to the possibility that they are a million years ahead," he said.
Kaku believes that only this type of civilization - millions of years more advanced that us and capable of using wormholes as shortcuts - could reach Earth and might be one explanation for UFOs.
"When you look at this handful of [UFO] cases that cannot be easily dismissed, this is worthy of scientific investigation," he said. "Maybe there's nothing there. However, on that off chance that there is something there, that could literally change the course of human history. So I say let this investigation begin."
- TheBlueOne0
phatlee -
There's also the possibility that WE are the most advanced race out there.
There was a scientist dude, I'll start googling, who did the maths - age of universe, statistically earliest time for life to begin in univers (cool enough, enough star cycles to produce heavier elements, etc..) statistical distribution of life supporting planets, relative time frame for life to begin anywhere, relative time for evolution to create intelligent creatures, so forth and came up with a few possibilities..it just might be that life on earth either a) arrived early - meaning we are alone - so far, b) concurrent - it's all popping up at about the same time - so we're one of many with probably similar levels of technological development, or c) we're late and everything's happened already. BUt I htink he showed mathmatically wit's probably a or b...
- Concrete0
Theoretical Physicists get paid to make the ridiculous sound tangible.
- jox0
Interesting stuff!
- phatlee0
Good point TheBlueOne!
- TheBlueOne0
Looking for that article/scientist guy, but found this in the meantime:
http://www.astrobio.net/news/art…
Key line on that page:
"It is always shaky when we generalize from experiments with a sample size of one."
- phatlee0
If Aliens Can Visit, How Did They Get Here?
Space Travel Defies Human Lifespans, But There May Be Loopholes
There have been countless accounts of alien visitations around the world, but one of the things that prompts skepticism is how they would get here in the first place.
If aliens are from another world, they must have some extraordinary means of travel - nothing like what is available anywhere on Earth. It is hard to underestimate the difficulty of going from star to star.
"The distances are so vast, the energy requirements are so extreme, it would be very, very difficult to travel between the stars," said James McGaha, a retired Air Force pilot.
A law of science, determined by Albert Einstein, says nothing can travel faster than the speed of light - 186,000 miles per second. The fastest object made by man, the Voyager spacecraft is travelling along at 11 miles per second. At that rate, the scientific probe Voyager, launched in 1977, would take 73,000 years to reach the nearest star.
As a result, some scientists think that sort of space travel is a waste of time.
"Scientifically, we have a rule: you want to be alive at the end of your experiment, not dead," said Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson, director of the Rose Center's Hayden Planetarium at the American Museum of Natural History in New York.
- Amen0
there must be some other life out there. we can't use a basic human condition compare to what another life form needs. they may not need an oxygen or water like we do, etc.
chk this ufo
- jox0
we can't use a basic human condition compare to what another life form needs.
Amen
(Apr 25 07, 03:07)Very well said. All these scientists trying to prove the likeliness of UFOs coming here are all doing so assuming they have the very same technology as us. I don't think they're comprehending just how different life on another planet could be...
Who's to say they even breathe?
- phatlee0
chk this ufo www.youtube.com/watch?...
Amen
(Apr 25 07, 03:07)cool!!
- designerror0
Earth 2.0
- TheBlueOne0
All these scientists trying to prove the likeliness of UFOs coming here are all doing so assuming they have the very same technology as us. I don't think they're comprehending just how different life on another planet could be...
jox
(Apr 25 07, 03:13)Yeah, sure scientists investigate these possibilities, it's their job. But the only reason they end up spending so much time on this is because stupid layman with a National Enquirer level of science keep asking them about UFO's.
I think the scientists comprehend how different life could be on other planets far better than joey six pack who thinks they all look like Star Trek extras or the STar Wars canteena. I talk to these guys and I'm like "Well, most of the life out there is probably microbes.."
"mike-what? Guys named mike?"
Forget it...
- jox0
hahah, that made me chuckle.
And for the record, I've never watched Star Wars, Star Trek or Battlestar Whatever in my entire life! I'm unbiased as to what they will look like.
- FrdmOfSpch0
i think life on other planets is like pure immaterial consciousness