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- karlo
Im thinking about trying to learn something different plus Im bored of wanking before the witty answers come flying in...
To learn this s £895 for a 9 week evening course at the London School of Sound...
Is this a fuck load of money to invest in a new hobby?
Your thoughts
Ta
Karlo
- meffid0
Trendy way to waste a small fortune.
- DoktorDavid0
Geebus - that's a lot of moola... how about you dedicate 30 minutes a day for a week to the software, learning as much as you can before you plunk down the dough...
- its_only_me0
Yeah its a lot of money.
Its actually not that tough to learn and theres a decent community for it too.
- karlo0
as I know NOTHING about this I thought it would be good to learn about sound in general or am I being to deep?
I saw this and became VERY inspired - obviously Ill never be able to do that but hey...
Check it:
- what they never talk about in these cut/copy/paste examples is the months fo workDoktorDavid
- *of work it took to know what the tools could do, let alone the background knowledgeDoktorDavid
- of all the samples used... that's years in most cases... don't be fooled, manDoktorDavid
- prophet0
- <----- Agreed. Spend the money on gear instead.DRIFTMONKEY
- <ukit
- < this 'n' that.akrok
- This. I learned ableton on my own.
inhaler97 - have one and love it. take a look at william marshall's apc40 templateglitchsbrew
- joshtrix0
Ableton is incredibly easy to pick up, that's the main reason I use it so much. If it was something like pro tools, the course might help, but the joy of Ableton is it's not convoluted. As prophet said, spend your money on the suite.
- karlo0
People...
WTF am I supposed to do with THAT bad boy!?!?!
- benfal990
>>> REASON <<<
- karlo0
its all far to cpmplex... I know nothing... Maybe I just download the 30 trial which I can buy for 99 euro if I like it...
- bored2death0
I say go for the class. It's taken me about 4 years to be at the point I feel comfortable saying I know Live. If I could have done it in 9 weeks, I would have.
- bored2death0
Oh, and just to be clear, you won't leave the class making music like Prodigy. That requires time and talent... you won't get that in 9 weeks.
Anyway, that song was done on ancient equipment like an SP1200, which is why the song is actually amazing.
- aanderton0
If you're looking for a life change, why not just change wank hands. Flips things into a whole different perspective!
- aanderton0
If you're looking for a life change, why not just change wank hands. Flips things into a whole different perspective!
- 23kon0
Download the trial, it talks you through stuff.
I never read manuals and just taught myself this program by trial and error i in no way know everything this program can do, but if theres anything i DO need to know theres always a tutorial on youtube or the web somewhere.
bored2death is right though its taken me about the same amount of time to say i know the program well and still dont know everything.
if this course is good enough and will make you a ableton master then its prob worth the grand.there is the arguement though that the best creativity comes from chaos so just try having a dabble yourself and see how you get on with it. if you hit a brick wall then go on the course/
- Miguex0
I think you need to consider the options here:
Yes, the software is easy (for most people that had a background in music applications) but for someone that has never used anything like it, it can be very intimidating.
Download a trial, watch the dubspot channel and other similars offering youtube tutorials for beginners, etc.
Give it a few months to see if you like it and then decide if you want to spend that money.
MOST people tell you it's easy to learn, but in all honesty the VAST MAJORITY will never learn everything you will on a reputable school with experienced musicians teaching you face to face.
Someone said, buy gear instead.
With all due respect, I disagree. What good is to have gear if you don't know how to use it?If you never learn the software you will be one of those guys on forums that argue about what software is better, because they think it's all about the tool and not the knowledge.
If you are already decided go take the classes, then you'll know what hardware is better for you, and you will spend your money more wisely in the future based on your actual needs instead of what controller [insert favorite artist name here] is using.
my 2 cents
- Thelonious_Funk0
buy a midi controller, get software, easy.
open and start learning, ableton is very intuiative...
dont be afraid to learn something new.
check out tutorials by tom cosm, hes got great ableton tips and chops.hardware vs software is irrelephant.... skills and imagination is where its at... theres people making gooood music even using garage band... pick any software and go for it.
- easy to make a 4/4 beat using the included loops, totally.Miguex
- irrelephant... hahahadasohr
- to quote dane cook, the majority of people only use 5$ worth of photoshop (in this case ableton), maybe the guy wants to REALLY learn itMiguex
- to REALLY learn how to use it you know?Miguex
- yes, I should also add, get a hardware interface to plug in mics and other gear...Thelonious_Funk
- music is made with more than just electronic bits... get a decent mic, record things liveThelonious_Funk
- Dodecahedron0
get a crack and play with it. its really easy to just start and mess with it. there's lessons in the help, just do them and get on with it.
- ukit0
- ukit0
Am I missing something, there was nothing really that complex about what they did here?? The majority was just cut up different samples used in the tune and apply various effects to them.
The hard part would be coming up with the music or the samples to use in the first place, not using the program.
- this is pretty good way of understanding how a full track works. knowing what everything does and why is the hard partDodecahedron
- this is useful.... we did stuff like this in the 90's in more primitive software, not that different in a way....vaxorcist