Malaysia Flight MH17
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- autoflavour0
Question I have is if t was shot out of the sky with a surface to air missile, why is so much of the wreckage in a close proximity? Surely traveling at 700km and being hit with a rocket would have meant the wreckage would be strewn over a larger area. Also the video showing it hit the ground, why would a plane which has already been hit with a rocket make a fire ball upon impact if it has disintegrated mid air
- autoflavour0
Also number 7
- Continuity0
'Question I have is if t was shot out of the sky with a surface to air missile, why is so much of the wreckage in a close proximity?'
Probably not a direct impact to the fuselage. Clipped wing, tail, et cetera.
- kingsteven0
Just read there were 100 of the passengers on board were going to an AIDS conference in Melbourne. Some prominent AIDS researchers and activists. I wonder how many people on board knew they were going to be flying over east Ukraine, truly horrible stuff.
- pablo280
- and what?kingsteven
- comon, stop it,
it's lilke someone god protects me,GeorgesIV - you do know that malysia is a majority muslim country right?GeorgesIV
- G, if you don’t believe in God, this doesn’t mean that God does not existpablo28
- ...but this is another discussion.pablo28
- iam nervous too when i take the plane.benfal99
- yeah this is just like someone putting a pic like "Oh God, I hate flying!"sem
- marychain0
fuck man...we're all just meat waiting for our turn to die in screaming horrible agony.
- BusterBoy0
Heard an interview with an Australian journalist on the scene...pretty horrific.
- inv0
Man, this makes me so angry...
- GeorgesIV0
I saw the passport pic and looked into it and found this video,
I don't agree with all the points but it's interesting non the less- There's footage out there that shows debris still falling as the smoke plume rises large. = at least partial mid-air break updetritus
- Jesus, that vid just gets stupider. The height of that footage isn't tall enough to show the impact altitude...detritus
- ...dy'know how high 10Km is?! Also, much of AA is based on kinetic, not explosive impact = not necessarily a plumedetritus
- Detritus didn't jnow you were an engineer, we are all still speculating, so post that vid you're talking about seems interestingGeorgesII
- Well, I suspect I'm more of a capable engineer than some of the mouths on here, yes.detritus
- Also, y'know — ‘logic’.detritus
- wow that was a stupid video, seriously georgesbenfal99
- drgs0
Most airlines avoided that route, its a war zone, what was Malaysia airline going there
- lowimpakt0
In the 80s that the US shot down an Iranian airplane with 290 civilians (66 children) on board. the US didn't apologies to the Iranian government and the soldiers received medals.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ira…
so if a modern (at the time) warship can make a "mistake" and shoot down a passenger jet it's obvious a bunch of separatist rebels could do the same
- Oh, quit being so deadpan logical — there're no references to 7 or occult synergies in your analysis...detritus
- detritus0
Here y'go, Georges - a variant on this perspective was kicking around yesterday, shown on BBC news reports..
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9…
I presume they're unfurled toilet rolls coming down there.
Don't know whether to laugh or cry at that sad testament to disaster.
- detritus0
Also — where the passports are concerned..
I — for reasons that are beyond me — watched a really sad series of videos the other week about the aftermath of an artillery strike on a civilian Russian rebel-held area. In it you see a number of mangled bodies, and amongst them one woman, broken and twisted, but still barely alive, gesturing for help. As the videos progress, she gradually dies, unaided by the pathetically-panicking smartphone footage-taker who doesn't have a clue what to do, locked in recording and sobbing.
Really, really sad.
Anyway, after the lady dies, you see in the background another woman going around the bodies, ostensibly checking them.. but then she quite clearly removes at least a ring from the very-recently-deceased's finger.
I'd like to think she was a friend and was keeping it safe for the deceased's family.. but then just as equally, life is probably not great over there, so she may as well be taking it because it has value for her own situation, her own survival.
Whatever.
Passports are worth a fucking fortune. They're also, if you're an authority (read: solider/local commander/etc) valuable as data points or evidence for whatever.
What I'm saying is - there're perfectly 'legitimate', non-conspirational reasons for there to be a bunch of passports very quickly rounded up.
- benfal990
The question is : Why does Malaysia Airlines planned a flight over a war zone? All the other airliners avoid this region sinces months.
- Why did Malaysia Airlines plan a flight over a war zone? All the other airlines have avoided this region for months.monospaced
- benfal990
And Iam bumping my comment about 9/11 because I think it's very very curious;
The plane that crashed yesterday in Ukraine, we saw many plane pieces huge and small, bodies everywhere, passports, books and a lot of other items. The plane fell from 10,000m alt!
HOW can you explain that :
The plane that crash in Pennsylvania on 9/11 ... nothing left. Just a big hole in the ground. Same thing at the Pentagon.Curious.
- Sigh.Continuity
- fo real, explainbenfal99
- speed of descent?lowimpakt
- i.e. mh17 blown out of sky and dropped the other flew fast into groundlowimpakt
- Just landed differently? Sometimes you fly over the handlebars, sometimes you get hit by a train?fyoucher1
- yeah maybe..
its true that the plane in Pennsylvania was flying extremely fastbenfal99 - What's so hard to understand? This plane broke up in sky, PN plane hit ground going very fast.monkeyshine
- They'll sigh at you because it's the media driven response, yet they have no answers for you.set
- Yesterdays plane broke up before it hit the ground. Pennsylvania plane flew, nose first, into the ground. If you check the crash site pics from 9/11 there is debris all over the place.Morning_star
- the crash site pics from 9/11 there is debris all over the place.Morning_star
- pablo280
^^
"It flew a more northerly path due to a big storm over it’s usual route. It flew 2 “air highways” farther north to avoid the storm. One of the news networks overlaid the flight path with the weather radar screen, which clearly showed the storm. It was not flying over restricted airspace."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focu…
- detritus0
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"bring to justice all these basterds.."
- Bit soon to be saying its a war against the world no? Plus it could have been mistake target, so was a casualty of the war in Ukrainesem
- war in Ukraine which don't get me wrong, is fucked up. But it's not rebels intentionally going at the world.sem
- Aye, this is all obviously loaded — a political coup for the Ukrainians. I just love the non-PC language :)detritus