Indesign - Print / Black is grey
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- craigatkinson0
I know you're all sitting waiting to find out what the cause was.
Well I don't know. But the fault happens when converting the finished PDF to dot gain 15%. All blacks lose about 10%, making them at best dark grey.
No idea whats causing that to happen because I've always done it and been fine...So there.- I think it's just that it's showing you how a non-rich black would appear.monospaced
- no its affecting the printed black - never done that before. Its not visible on screencraigatkinson
- so weird, sorrymonospaced
- I've never fussed with dot gains for digital mono printmonospaced
- mekk0
- craigatkinson0
how do you adjust dot gain?
- organicgrid0
- That's some heavy ink loading right there. I'd tone that down to keep total to 300-320% (max!)sausages
- yup, 40,40,40,100 does itmekk
- ooof... 350% TIL for a rich black is semi insane but if it's been working for you and your print vendor doesn't curse your name.jonny_quest_lives
- proceed.jonny_quest_lives
- Gnash0
what I would do:
Adjust images in PS to account for dot gain.
PDF export:
- Don't convert to destination
- Dont include profiles.Printer will re-rip the pdf using their own profiles anyway.
- monospaced0
- the only thing that comes to mind that might be affecting thingsmonospaced
- Impressive drop shadow right there.organicgrid
- it's just a standard screenshot output from OSXmonospaced
- craigatkinson0
thanks. It's digital printing and the conversion to DG 15% usually makes rich and 100% print the same...
- monospaced0
It might have to do with the fact that 100%K isn't a "Rich" black, which would be darker since it has CM and Y thrown in for more saturation. InDesign does have a setting for outputting only rich blacks, but at this point I would confirm with the printer that they have the solid black plates and that they'll be printing them as solid black K. Hope that help.s
- craigatkinson0
I don't think the 95% black thing is related actually - just need to get the blacks back to black in the pdf and then in print! Mono print.
- craigatkinson
This is driving me nuts. I've never had a problem with it and must have pressed something by mistake.
I'm making a book to print mono digital.
All images are greyscale dot gain 15%placed in indesign.
inside covers are 100% K blocks
Overprint is set to 'no'
Print black is set to 'accurate'
I save and export to PDF. Whole PDF is then converted to destination - Dot Gain 15%
Blacks print grey. ARRRRGGGHHH
Other thing I've tried is just saving a 100%K black page. Export to PDF then import to illustrator. Colour dropper says 100%K.
If I do the same thing but convert the PDF to DG15% illustrator says 95%K -why does the black drop to grey when converting the PDF to dot gain 15%?
Sorry about the ramble but really any help is greatly appreciated and whoever solves it will be sent some books as a thanks!