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- yurimon-14
- "Living in a world of self delusional meaning". I'm still trying to wrap my head around that one. #yurimonbasedgodORAZAL
- - Values are make believe by definition.
- Are we not primates?ORAZAL - removing religion doesn't take morality away. atheists don't eat or kill their children.doesnotexist
- Is this primate talking to me?yurimon
- Therefore, Non Atheists:
- Not primates
- Values are NOT make belief
- I don't even know what the fuck the that means
- Feel great, at least smth in common!ORAZAL - Stop with your delusions PRIMATES!. you are just making it up as you go along.yurimon
- okay...monospaced
- 2 delusions doesnt make a reality. mkay.yurimon
- You've lost your touch yuri.
I am disappoint.ORAZAL - this speaks for itself. you live in a world of make believe. choose your pretend module. ic you have chosen atheism. have fun pretending.yurimon
- ummm... I feel like believing in Gods, angels, a heaven, afterlife, demons and miracles is more make believe, but anyway...monospaced
- you believe in magic green paper or numeric digits on a computer screen. dont you. a piece of pretended value to control your behavior. thats just as sillyyurimon
- so a paper with magic sigils on it is ok. sigh..yurimon
- lol, you're serious about this post, yuri?scarabin
- dude, dont start. ok your synapses are firing in you primate brain. you are an accident. we dont want accidental primates who are delusional in this debate.yurimon
- Well. Sure I believe paper money has value since we have a global system in place that it's a part of. We can't escape that reality by choice.monospaced
- That's a bit different than claiming to know the truth about our creator and the afterlife don't you think?monospaced
- Thats exactly what they said about the catholic church in the height of its power. you cant escape. so how is this belief different from any other belief.yurimon
- dont proclaim belief systems if you cant examine the falsities of your ownyurimon
- right...monospaced
- yupyurimon
- The difference is that religions systems have supernatural entities that are responsible for acts. Money, on the other hand, represents our own responsibility.monospaced
- both man-made, yes, both systems of control, yes, but one is a practical system of trade while the other is, practically, just a belief system.monospaced
- super natural entity called the state. where can i meet this entity called the state?yurimon
- are you suggesting you're not a primate, yuri?scarabin
- btw, you can contact your state here https://www.usa.gov/…scarabin
- i'm sure they'll get back to you faster than god willscarabin
- but i want to shake the hand of the state. I mean its been acting in my interest. so i was told it was real. just like pope it has an army and seems pope answeryurimon
- s to god a fictional entity thus the state must be real an exists in a more real way and less make belief than religion. however i have never met the state.yurimon
- somehow this invisible entity is making choices for me. how can it be its the same shit different slight of hand. to control you. n both systems have an elite.yurimon
- are you suggesting you're not a primate, yuri?scarabin
- the state is an organism made of thousands of individuals. it IS possible for you to shake hands with all of them, given enough time.scarabin
- i doubt you will ever shake the hand of god.scarabin
- how is not different then an imaginative religions organization still is a fiction.yurimon
- those organizations have peoples hands you can shake. religion had the power to kill you now the state has this power. same shit diff pretend.yurimon
- are you suggesting you're not a primate, yuri?scarabin
- stop avoiding this question. are you a primate or not?scarabin
- it's different because the state does not claim to answer to a fictional being.scarabin
- you guys claim you are dealing with something more tangible. a religious organization is tangible especially when it was in power n had n armyyurimon
- yuri, are you a primate?scarabin
- we ARE dealing with something more tangible. a group of people is tangible. catholicism is tangible. is the god it worships tangible? no.scarabin
- your metaphor doesn't work, move on already. now. why are you calling us primates like it's a bad thing? what do you think you are?scarabin
- Its not hard to see that even though the one premise is more acceptable to you its still the same control system with a few adjustments. still follows the sameyurimon
- underlying psychological mechanism that you would accuse religion but a more presentable sales pitch that most people seem to except.yurimon
- but arguably it can still be the exact same utter bullshit. you like an iphone, i like an andriod.yurimon
- "a few adjustments"? catholicism's MAIN thing is god. that's it's primary focus. that's not just a little adjustment. why are you avoiding the primate question?scarabin
- just fucking answer it already. what are you, yuri, if not a primate?scarabin
- obviously if the god thing wears off its going to be something else like democracy when there is non.yurimon
- but it hasn't. catholicism is still based on the concept of god. are you a primate, yuri?scarabin
- power ideology changes as the screwing over time becomes obvious and people are like oh this idea is better, we needs some change.. then buy the sales pitch.yurimon
- catholicism is still based on the concept of god. are you a primate, yuri?scarabin
- prim8syurimon
- that's cute. are you a primate, yuri?scarabin
- why are you calling us primates like you aren't one, yuri?scarabin
- what is it you think you are?scarabin
- why are you avoiding the question?scarabin
- you believe you are a prim8?yurimon
- is the whole focus of you're argument? avoid the core substance.yurimon
- we're addressed and exhausted your core substance already. you were there, remember? this is a side thing i'm curious about.scarabin
- so what's your answer? yuri == primate, or no?scarabin
- this is really a very simple question. i know you've got a couple brain cells left you can rub together to come up with something.scarabin
- are you afraid to admit that you know you are, in fact, a primate and you just got so emotional and self-righteous that you started spewing it like an insult?scarabin
- or do you believe you are not a primate but something superior, something other-human? in this case, please do elaborate.scarabin
- OR, is it that you don’t believe in natural selection and therefore disown the idea that we evolved from apes? in this cale, please tell us where we came from.scarabin
- Money and religion don't have the same psychological mechanism of control! If you don't have money, you can't buy shit. If you sin, you are punished by god.monospaced
- we're waiting, yuri. http://i.dailymail.c…scarabin
- One has actual repercussions, the other is a complete guess by anyone's account. Also, are you a primate, yuri?monospaced
- ic. I knew it was bait question. so you was hoping id answer so you can turn it into a superiority thing.yurimon
- yuri, you made it a "superiority thing" when you started calling us apes as though you were something besides an ape. at least have to balls to tell us why.scarabin
- so much for deb8s. I think religious people n atheists still follow the same archetype system.yurimon
- why did you do that, yuri?scarabin
- if you are going along pure scientific atheist lingo, then we are nothing more then accident of a mysterious nothing. so much for dealing in facts i guess.yurimon
- your argument fell right through to the ground. don't be so closed-minded. now, why did you call us primates, yuri?scarabin
- what if we are not going by scientific lingo? please tell us in your own words what you are if not a primate. and why you feel we are.scarabin
- mysterious nothing happens by accident, leading to prim8s that are no longer primitive cause we have iphones and our fictional entities are more real then oldyurimon
- fictional entities. we are better yes in some ways but can you understand that it all came out of the exact same ideas but differently worded.yurimon
- stop it with the 8 shit. you're not twelve and this isn't AOL. it's not helping you.scarabin
- facts point to that being the truthmonospaced
- qabalah 11-12 dimensions, quantum physics 11 dimensions.yurimon
- so you're saying you ARE a primate?scarabin
- you're saying that you believe everything we do but with different words?scarabin
- you got crazy vague there for a second like you were trying to avoid the question again or something.scarabin
- alot of concepts you claim is modern came out old mysticism, just sold bit different as power structure thought it was necessary. you still have religion thatyurimon
- where did we come from, yuri? are you a primate or not?scarabin
- i haven't claimed anything is modern. nobody here has. you're avoiding the question again.scarabin
- binds you hatheist. just different names fo things. but the archetypes are the same.yurimon
- so you're a primate?scarabin
- am i talking to a wall. why is this important to your argument based on all i saidyurimon
- i already told you, it's not part of any argument. your argument fell flat ages ago. i'm just curious about you.scarabin
- we all agree that old mysticisms were clumsy attempts at science, attempts to explain things. some came close to truth, others didn't.scarabin
- we refined the process and it became science. some of the old results bear a primitive resemblance to things we have since proven. so what?scarabin
- that is not true, maybe in the minds of hatheists it fell flat but anyone rational can understand that most people are bound by the same archetypes that driveyurimon
- their belief systems.yurimon
- that doesn't mean science is a belief system. that's like saying a chicken is an egg.scarabin
- you keep harping on this for some reason.scarabin
- my belief is not relevant here.yurimon
- of course it is. if you don't have any beliefs but continually insult us that means you're nothing but a troll. i would much rather believe you are a man whoscarabin
- makes these assertions based on passionate beliefs than that you’re just an asshole.scarabin
- if you're shitting on us for no reason at all you're just a dick. at least have the balls to share what you believe in so we can talk deb8 like adultsscarabin
- you call us primates as an insult, knowing full well you're a primate yourself. that's superficial assholism.scarabin
- you're hiding.scarabin
- throwing stones from behind a wallscarabin
- i ask why you think you're not a primate so i can fucking see you, you coward.scarabin
- Damn! I missed the train on this one. Too much to read now.pango
- basically, our beliefs are all wrong, but yuri's afraid to tell us his.scarabin
- thats has nothing to do with the main subject. its just a point of attack thats failed.yurimon
- we already addressed your main point ages ago.scarabin
- try to keep up.scarabin
- i dont think so. but keep making stuff up, puts you at par with other humans. just makin shit up.yurimon
- see you later mate. Going to the dunnyyurimon
- dude, you were there. you petered out and gave up. your metaphor didn't work.scarabin
- after the hand-shaking nonsense you failed to come up with a better point to make and we moved on to the primate thing. that was like 50 posts ago.scarabin
- scarabin you are so much like yuri it is comical. your hang up with him is very tellinggilgamush
- have to disagree. Yurimon make no sense way more often than scarabin.pango
- we might be from the same Monad. quiet possible but he carries bit of darker energy.yurimon
- no pango. im sorry but you like scarabin better so he makes more sense to you.yurimon