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— How does one objectively classify whether someone is right wing or far right?
Why do you need to? It becomes quite obvious from what the say and how they act. Assuming guilt by association is a disturbing and destructive feature of dictatorial, oppressive, fascist, communist, racist, totalitarian, regimes. Your assumptions generate an opinion based on false information. It’s valueless.
— This gets to the heart of what annoys me about the "IDW" movement -- there seems to be an effort to normalize far right views while pretending that the left is super extreme due to a handful of crazy feminists. That is not logical or reasonable.
In that last comment Yuekit you demonstrated exactly what the research claims to show. Rather than start a discussion or challenge the creators you paint something as ‘harmful’ or ‘far right’ without any rational analysis. I’ll challenge you to bring one example of your claim that the members of the IDW are normalising far right views. (My suspicion is that your definition of ‘far right’ is so broad as to tarnish those that are merely attempting to open up a discussion in good faith)
It seems the only thing that you’ve managed to extract from the article after dismissing the conclusions (why?) is a largely irrelevant point about the content of Shapiro’s website. You seem happy enough to group people together and judge them with unsophisticated stereotyping if they don’t fall comfortably into your political safe space but you claim racism and discrimination when someone makes a similar point about the issues faced by, for example, black communities or gender based groups.
We need to be able to discuss these issues openly and in good faith. Nothing should be taboo. How do you expect to address the problems of sexual harassment or equal opportunity or violent crime when many won’t engage because of a misguided and prejudiced ‘group think’ assumption.
- A great example would be Dave Rubin's recent comment (while interviewing a far-right, anti-immigrant Canadian politician) that because the left is so terrible,yuekit
- he can't blame people if they embrace actual ethnonationalism.yuekit
- That is a completely absurd view, but it perfectly captures the skewed framing that goes on with many of these guys -- painting the left in the harshest termsyuekit
- possible, while giving a sympathetic platform to extremes on the other side.yuekit
- this might be an interesting dialogue if the troll knob was dialed waaaay down.MrAbominable
- @yuekit. Replied in another post.Morning_star