Extinction Rebellion
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- Nairn0
What I particularly dislike is the complete lack of self-awareness and self-regimentation with this kind of stuff - I touched upon it in set's Notre Dame ranting, Shapesalad touched upon it in his anti-ER ranting:
I lived for years in a warehouse community and came across literally hundreds of competent do-gooder-types who espoused environmental philosophies and would ostensibly 'get involved' in 'things' that 'made a point', but then they'd invariably drive to the home county family homes in their parental-supplied emissions-spewing vehicles, would buy plastic products and foods flown in from afar, would jet off a couple of times a year to 'active getaways' in Asia or South America and come back with a load of trappings of the worthy, would fundamentally not impose restrictions that limited their comfort despite environmental impact.
I don't see it as much different from the 'anti-oil' types who .. well, rely upon oil-based products and fuel every day.
if ER becomes a prevalent movement and draws larger concerns into its fold - I'm talking corporations, monied organisations and foundations, rich philanthropists, competent political lobbyists - it might actually begin to achieve something. If it's just a bunch of outwardly-involved individuals seeking aesthetic stamp of worthiness - as it mostly appears to be now - it'll amount to nothing.
Sadly, I feel the only way to achieve anything of value is for there to be catastrophes of differing types that demand governments ban and restrict existing modes and consumption patterns, almost totalitarian-like.
A bunch of middle class kids and post-menopausal women dancing like idiot loons on London bridge isn't going to actually do anything.
- Whoops, that was a bit long and repetitive.Nairn
- I see your beef, but I also see the frustrations of those who see large capitalist-driven corporations not being held accountable for their destruction.Ianbolton
- Maybe the big oil spills from BP and Shell are the modern wars we fight? Trying to bring down large companies for being environmentally incompetentIanbolton
- Yeah, but that's just it - all it amounts to is frustration-venting, like the Greenham Common lot. It won't actually change anything. As-is, anyway.Nairn
- Follow the money - the real power in society is represented by taxes - The Rich and The Corporations are the ones that need to bend to change thisNairn
- I also hate the fact we're telling our kids that their species is a vermin infestation on this planet. If you think that just kill yourself and not have kidsIanbolton
- Amusingly, that's not far off from how I felt about things in my twenties. But hypocrite that I am, here I am twenty years later, with my own crotchspawn.Nairn
- lol at crotchspawn... not heard that one beforedee-dubs