Climate Change
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First of all there is the larger cycles that dont encompass what we consider the human race. we know through "science' there are cycles of ice ages and warming periods. we know humans have an effect and a large amount of media and money is spent to point out the obvious that "stuff" effects things. What we don't know scienticially is to what extent. We have had numerous models and all have failed. Yes all based on data and hypothetical "science" of said data. But we dont really know wether we cut 1000 or 2 years off natural cycles. And we really have no ability to control climate change if everyone on earth was an ant and fell in line to those who thought they could control.
But i will say there is a ton of money to be made from it. from statician grants for bias to carbon credits.Hell tesla has made 2 billion in carbon credits alone while remaining unprofitable except to the upper echelon. Its manipulation of best interests by those you hate. i mean i cant really say you dont deserve it... spelled out and ppl still fall for it. at the end of day you have to wonder if its larger darwinianism, a culling of the herd for the better good.
- Drill baby drillutopian
- I love how people like deathboy have lovely nice big opinions on climate science. That is contrary to, you know, what actual climate scientists say.inteliboy
- Tesla is not a voice in the scientific community. There's a mistake in confusing science as a whole as a 'for profit' entity.T-Dawg
- If you make a claim of people 'falling for climate science' where the interest was profit, back that claim up. Give us some examples.T-Dawg
- Show me the dataT-Dawg
- climate "scientists". its quite a name that really gets people to go along. but little has to do with any science.deathboy
- as far as tesla im just using them as one example of the profit motive behind such pushes that has little to do with ... well results to stop climate change...deathboy
- which is so absurd... who here thinks we can stop climate change? we cant even control inflation to our liking which is complex but much less so than climate.deathboy
- tdawg look at any and every green tech company that runs on subsidies or some sort of carbon trade. those are the examplesdeathboy
- ask yourself if they could be in business without those, and how much profit is extracted or wether the whole company if built around themdeathboy
- hell tdawg give me an example of a business not interested in profit, or their employees, the whole only working out of good intentions to save the environment?deathboy
- even if that is true.... why is that a big deal anyway? New jobs. New industry. All in the cause to make green energy and technology.inteliboy
- you actually concerned about 'green' tech companies and gov funded scientists rubbing their greedy hands together?inteliboy
- @death lol I don't have to find an example to a claim I never made.T-Dawg
- Environmental policy and profit pull in opposite directions. But if we neglect environmental protections, the burden of pollution falls on the taxpayer.T-Dawg
- oh for sure inteliboy im concerned because those jobs and monies are all at the expense of someone else. not to mention the market distortionsdeathboy
- even if it doesn't directly effect me i know it hits the poorest the hardest. and that will effect my freedom in the long run.deathboy
- Well you don't have to find an example tdawg but i doubt you can. But looking for a such a thing may enlighten how you perceive the whole thing.deathboy
- Not sure what you mean environmental policy and profit pull in different directions. I can name plenty where they pull in the samedeathboy
- as far as pollution policy falls on taxpayers... i'd say consumers. let consumers decide what value things. they are far wiser than a couple publicly electeddeathboy
- officials having money thrown at them from special interests for personal and future job employment securitydeathboy
- oh and most important no one came out to actually think we can stop climate change through policy. thats a positivedeathboy
- @death have you at all followed what's going on in China right now? Massive environmental regulation enacted concerning air pollution.T-Dawg
- Moving away from coal towards natural gas and other energy sources.T-Dawg
- Policy has been working in that model, at the cost of industry and to the consumers. It's just a matter of priorities.T-Dawg
- Until it becomes a matter of necessity, as is the case in China, where air quality was a huge detriment to everyone and everything.T-Dawg
- subsidies and carbon trade do not equal profit, dude, they just reduec the massive carbon fees for massive pollutorsmonospaced
- Tdawg what is the social cost of such programs? Who is most effected negatively? Would you prefer the US to be like china with politicians like AOC at the helmdeathboy
- dictating policy for personal gains? With such a dictatorship in china what has been there gains at what costs?deathboy
- subsidies and carbon trade equal a shit ton of profit mono.... jeez man they just reduce carbon fees... you don't really understand economics at alldeathboy
- you cant possibly think subsidies and carbon credits don't equal massive profit for those who get them. im a bit stunned by such a responsedeathboy