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    Why do we judge a country on its 'power'? We at least do this from a western perspective. It seems though, if we viewed things by 'competency', it would surely mean we change the tone in which we hold our own governments to a higher level of scrutiny. When you see the trajectories of say for example China, we begin to realise they seem to have at least some kind of goal/narrative they're working towards. Here in the UK we've spent 3 years concentrating on fucking Brexit and it seems America still don't believe in climate change.

    We need a global narrative, yet we don't even trust our next door neighbour, nevermind a ruling government.

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    • Honestly, i think we're fucked. Humanz are too stupidz.Bennn
    • but a global narrative would be from a single view point. and if wrong would ruin everything. or more than likely setup a path for complete control based ondeathboy
    • goal narrative. freedoms could be crushed on whims and anything goes by those dictating to such goal/narrative.... hasnt this been done already?deathboy
    • strange it always find champions to repeat itself in a new angle, form, adage.deathboy
    • I don't agree. We all have our own inner stories, as we're narrative-driven species, and we're tribalistic in our nature - to some extent.Ianbolton
    • But to say that a global narrative would be a dictatorship is assuming that everything is based around power and we're forced to believe in one truth.Ianbolton
    • We all have our own individual stories that get us up in the morning, but i believe if governments came from a place of competency, not power, we'd be...Ianbolton
    • way more inclined to see positives in a forward movement to be part of nature rather than see our goal to control nature.Ianbolton
    • haha ian global narrative gov is a single truth. u seem to state people have all kinds of narratives, but jsut want a happy ppl to accept a gov global truthdeathboy
    • willingly ignoring every for such difference of narratives. Think of it this way from a business perspective. Wouldnt it be great if all people just willinglydeathboy
    • and without coercion choose our product. that is a pretty asinine conclusion. duterte has a vision and popular to get voted in killing a bunch of unsavory typesdeathboy
    • the competency of it makes sense for function of his rule. but not for rule of law. i think i see where your ideology may be trying to go. and some truth to itdeathboy
    • hell kill all liberals we'd be a better unified place right :). but rule of law and individual rights is the western culture of real advancementdeathboy
    • away from tribalism and true freedom unless its the hiccup of an era dicators have waited to pass. And jsut about hoping to have the right dictatordeathboy
    • notesboy strikes again leaving many scratching their heads wondering what the shit this asshat is trying to actually say again.monospaced
    • mono. quit riding my dick and add your response based on ians post. starting to think your gay brodeathboy
    • gay? really? you're a fucking idiotmonospaced
    • well you like dick riding. maybe one of the other alphabet soup letters you are.deathboy
    • i dont know know. you do you but sometimes dick riding does nothin. try to get a opinion with any basisdeathboy
    • like heres an example of how full of shit you are. you insult and try to assert your view as others that i make no sense. which is baseless. it displaysdeathboy
    • either you get it or you don't and you don't like it. and running form it like tom cruise gay thoughts.deathboy
    • if something was unclear and actually curious or didn't have a set opinion you would ask.typical educated solution..deathboy
    • but in all the times you engage you only do in insult. if ever challenged on a detail you ghost. you and trump with your realities might have more in commondeathboy
    • than u know. Of course i never expect you to consider it for personal growth. some people just cant do it.deathboy
    • Haha. Wow! "How old are you?" would be a great thing to start/end this. Although I need to be careful incase you insinuate I ride Mono's dick. Which I obv doIanbolton
    • Maybe you could lay out your arguments a little better for us to work out. How about with clearly bullet pointed explanations as to WHAT THE FUCK YOU MEAN?Ianbolton
    • ian i explained why your utopia is fake. either there is a singel global narrative as china liek you point out or mutlipel narratives that embrace free marketsdeathboy
    • OR you have multipel narratives that jsut happen to coincide with a large narrative you like. probably unlikely though.deathboy
    • either way its a question of individuality or collectivism. again who says we all unite and kill off all cliamte alarmists and socialist woudl we not see adeathboy
    • a better future? the issue with all collective narratives is they are usually based on bias and bum statistics to validate actions.deathboy
    • and should also take into consideration the bg fear of monopoly in business. a single narrative is a monopoly. all problems are similar with itdeathboy
    • is science a collective narrative?Ianbolton
    • it very well can be but wont lump all science together. much of how we perceive of science is opinion. postman wrote a bunch of how our culture misinterpretsdeathboy
    • abotu how we perceive what is science and how we think of it back in the early 90s which still rings true to this daydeathboy
    • have you ever wonder about collective opinions of a specific journal or peers in science? that is a collective narrative. and as such most collectives usuallydeathboy
    • form out of weak seeking power. and any narrative they have hardly deal with truth and more reflects hos it will effect themselves. since man looks out for selfdeathboy
    • interests and the whole wallstreet greed is good.unless you only believe the "bad" guys have self interest?deathboy
    • "Since man looks out for self"? I think you're missing the whole point of what I'm saying in that one statement. The only reason we are where we are today is...Ianbolton
    • through our ability as a species to collaborate and to build group narratives. We are story led creatures. Do you still think evolution is an opinion?Ianbolton
    • is this collaboration willingly? Any narrative will be built out of any collaboration willingly or unwillingly. A company in free to work state is differentdeathboy
    • than old slavery. and hard not to acknowledge ecomic edge slavery gave industry in labordeathboy
    • all sanctioned by gov approval.deathboy
    • i think evolution is a pretty solid hypothesis. see it in small scale, however i think in long term talking millions of years there are holes left unfullfilled.deathboy
    • but im fully on board with the survival of the fittest. which of the majority of people fittest largely comes down to capital.deathboy
    • the top 10% are scared of losing there ocean front property or island vaction homes and real estate they mroe than liekly will have the largest voice in orderdeathboy
    • to try and save them while they lobby gov to subsidize their interest and everyone elses costs. COme on what person living on 18K a year wants to pay $5 lb burgdeathboy
    • er meat which is less healthy to protect nothign they own while the 10% dine on good old beef.deathboy
    • yeesh bad type. trying to watch netflix as i type. i own it. sorry. but think you get should still see where im going.deathboy
    • I'd say science is and clearly shows a willingness to collaborate, to further the understandings of what it is to be human. Beyond politics.Ianbolton
    • id say its a perfect area to get into politics for funding and sell bias. its hard to have unconditional science in regards to fundingdeathboy
    • notesboy strikes again!monospaced
    • You don't make sense, because you can barely type a coherent sentence, and on that point you will NEVER be able to show that I am wrong. Ever.monospaced
    • lol @ you talking about an "educated decision" when you are uneducated and I am very educated. Fucking idiot.monospaced
    • lol the idea of talking how educated you are is all i need to show your ignorance. thanks for proving my pointdeathboy
    • you don't have a point, though.monospaced
    • i do. but dont worry abouting ducking for it.deathboy
    • wut?monospaced
    • it is over your head... ducking... jeez i thought that was tee ball easy.deathboy
    • but ian seems to accept collaboration. He just ignoring the incentives of it. Ceo with many cheaply paid people is collaboration.deathboy
    • you are absolutely right about collaboration amongst humans but peopel collaborate willingly for what suit there INDIVIDUAL narrativedeathboy
    • anyone preaching a group collaboration narrative has a closet case communist collectivist style agenda.deathboy
    • but i mean its so obvious you totally got that right mono? hahahadeathboy
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