Climate Change

Out of context: Reply #160

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  • deathboy-1
    • Ask yourself how many mining and oil companies failed on the road to its current state, all while taking big money subsidies. A century's worth.T-Dawg
    • We all know know new industry comes with hard lessons and failures. That's part of the deal.T-Dawg
    • ah yes sacrifices. tdawg. nuthin new nor claims of their virtues. we all know one must break an egg for an omlettedeathboy
    • and as the article states is the defense of such an issue. but i doesnt question the role of gov to user public funds for venture capital that may promote theirdeathboy
    • political aims. im still a free market capitalist and support private investment. take tesla market cap for an example. a completedeathboy
    • casino shit show and waste of money, but like a casino private funds. or shittard pensioners who should know betterdeathboy
    • oil, mining, farming and even the early railroad should have all been private. and you will get better returns becuase simply private capital has more selfdeathboy
    • interests. fundamentally speaking. of course there is plenty of private capital backed by public capital in various schemes and becoming a more popular routedeathboy
    • for mitigating risk. and plenty of political people selling such risk mitigation for campaign payouts. reid is a great example in nvdeathboy
    • from his land contracts to basic dairy farming. he only did what put money in his pocket book than ate shti excercising in a bathroomdeathboy
    • and tried to sue the seller of the cheap as seller of runner bands. Something funny in it all really.deathboy
    • Maybe t-dwag you need to explain why its good for an elected official to funnel subsidies and public funds to a single industry?deathboy
    • do they really do it out of greater good, or personal incentives. is it smart to risk all on one thing? should we really go all in on edison DC?deathboy
    • should we ignore fallibility of elected officials?deathboy
    • and can you even make a comparison of oil/mining that had nearly a billion that failed? Who failed and to how much?deathboy
    • was it federally funded or by local state voting? Big difference on those 2.deathboy
    • When did public officials ever pump funds into a single industry? It's part of a budget, a piece of the pie. Nothing else was funded those years?T-Dawg
    • Fallabilty is also part of the deal. Along with integrity, incentives. Do you hold government officials solely responsible?T-Dawg
    • How about the voters that put them there? Or the non-voters that let special interests have their way?T-Dawg
    • I find it strange that you seem to focus on this single industry, when the concerns you mention are universally applicable.T-Dawg
    • I'm all for more responsibility in government spending but through accountability rather than throwing out the baby with the bathwater.T-Dawg
    • What's your intent behind specifically posting this? To have someone bite so you can talk about our lord and savior the free market?T-Dawg
    • Uhm always public officials pump funds into single industries. Especially where prevalent to their campaign funds...deathboy
    • do you forget obama and corn ethanol?deathboy
    • and yes i hold gov officials wholly responsible for hamstringing the private investment, incentives and desires of the people for what they think may workdeathboy
    • and voters are quite dumb. why i don't support democracy but rule of law, and against gov financial roles in developing enterprise in what they think is good.deathboy
    • that shit is so china backwards. and yes my concerns are very universal and without hypocrisy. Gov finds it abortion economically unsuitable or payout by groupsdeathboy
    • subsidize certain behaviors and rig the rules and procedures that are politically acceptable for voters to accept regardless wether right or wrongdeathboy
    • or any reason behind it. And you never made a solid point allowing gov to pick industry winners over free markets...deathboy
    • you only questioned wether it was bait for free markets. bait? well i hope so that people still have sense of reason. Havent forsaken the baby in the waterdeathboy
    • completely yet .. if you get that. I think you jsut cant get past your id politics. The idea you might be "evil" socially if you don;t agree. you know thedeathboy
    • whole climate ID politics are quite similar to nigger lovers or gays politics. jsut tweaked a little bit. ID politics with popular times. funny seeing the trapdeathboy

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