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- drgs0
Are you guys bored? Let's start a flame war about racism.
What I think racism in America is all about -- using myself as a mirror to understand white people:
1. White people are not afraid of black people per se. White people are afraid of the ghetto, ie. middle class white people are equally averse to white trash as they are to black or latino ghetto thugs. They live for themselves, don't want anything crime-related in their neighborhood and try not to think about black people at all (neither positive or negative attitude).
2. Black people are associated with crime because crime rates in lower social classes are always higher. They are stuck in lower social classes because of systemic racism, which is true.
3. Systemic racism is not an intentional, directed conspiracy by white people, it just happens that America is an awkward country with low social mobility and heterogeneous culture. Its motto is the most murderous phrase in human history: "This is your problem".
4. When black people talk about racism they always mean systemic racism. When white people talk about racism they mean individual racism (being racist because of actual racial traits etc). When you for example ask black people if they can be racist against asians -- the answer is no because black people don't have that institutional power (black people holding asians down -- it makes no sense). White people will interpret this as hypocritical and it creates a lot of confusion.
5. Racism will get better only when America levels up in civilization and socialism, and improves its social mobility. Its stubborn conservative skeleton has to be broken completely, which is impossible to do because American lemmings take pride in anti-socialism.
If it doesn't happen and Europe/Canada/Australia progress further, there will be a strange gap making North America look like South America, with small protected enclaves of middle white class neighborhoods.Discuss
- uh ohNairn
- I hate to say this, but your assessment is not wrong.monospaced
- Not saying it’s that simple, necessarily, or that it’s totally complete, but you bring up good points that speak to the “system” in place.monospaced
- But this doesn’t factor in the actual systemic active racism in economics and the justice system. That’s what BLM is also about.monospaced
- by 2040 whites will be a major minority in the US: https://www.axios.co…grafician
- Give me an example of active racism in economicsdrgs
- That’s why you see so many black refugees immigrating to Canada right?hotroddy
- many is relative. US still got more.pango
- In economics? Well, racism in workplace holding back promotions and raises. In real estate for sure. Etc.monospaced
- Ok, to me that's passive racism (ignoring black people, not hiring etc). KKK is active racism. Active racism in economics -- how would that be like?drgs
- To demand that you get paid more than black colleagues, or to have black people evicted from your neighborhood -- that's active racism.drgs
- Anyway
https://i.redd.it/qr…drgs - By active, I mean that racism is driving a decision. Like not promoting someone because they’re black. Not unconscious bias.monospaced
- And driving black people from neighborhoods is active racism to me because it happens. Simply not selling to them based on color, etc. pricing too.monospaced
- Active or passive, it is happening. Every day, and it’s active in that sense. White people are actively making sure black people are kept in a place.monospaced
- Not just through being racist in general, but through racism in economics. It’s a huge part of the problem, not really factored in above.monospaced
- It would fit in 5 I guess.monospaced
- And it makes 3 difficult to accept by itself. It’s not simple. Racism is why social mobility is different for different races.monospaced
- Too often it is absolutely, 100% intentional, even if nobody says it. The act is racist and economic at the same time.monospaced