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Whilst the Weinstein's should not be the only source of information one uses to garner information and subsequently form opinions I do think that they consistently adhere to the scientific principles. And, more importantly change their opinions when faced with provable facts.
I listen to their weekly podcast (among others) and have seen them talk with and examine experts and test their opinions before committing to any hypothesis they support.
They were correct about the Lab Hypothesis way before main stream opinion cottoned on and, so far, they have been careful and right about the claims they're making regarding Ivermectin. The fact that it has proven effective in the treatment and cessation of Covid in Eastern Europe, Africa, India and South America needs to be investigated. And, Oxford University also agree and are carrying out trials as we speak.
The Weinsteins' can sometimes be alarmist and also prone to a victim mentality BUT they are both consistent in their approach and address quickly any inaccuracies they have in their claims.
If you don't want to listen that's cool but your generalisations about them are largely second hand and mostly inaccurate.
- How can you say they are correct about the "lab hypothesis"? It's still just speculation and totally unknown.yuekit
- And same with ivermectin, it hasn't been proven effective yet...yuekit
- 'Hypothesis' is the key word here. Their argument is that it should be on the table as an option. And they were right.Morning_star
- Their claims about Ivermectin are also similar, they just want it studied and 'on the table' as an option.Morning_star
- I dunno, I listened to his recent episode...which was literally called "How to Save the World"...and yes he advocated giving everyone ivermectinyuekit
- for one month and claimed this would end the pandemic. Also lots of fear mongering about vaccines. If I had listened to that and didn't know any better,yuekit
- there's zero chance I'd vaccinate myself or my family. So I get the criticism above.yuekit
- Yes, because it's incredibly safe and is likely to help in the treatment and stopping transmission of covid.Morning_star
- But that's the contested part right? It's not at all established. They just retracted one of the major studies today.yuekit
- They go to GREAT lengths to explain their caution about the covid vaccines. And ALWAYS say they are pro-vaxx.Morning_star
- Have you got a link? And it IS established as an incredibly safe drug. More than 4billion doses have been given around the world over the last 30yearsMorning_star
- See here...and also read the replies.
https://twitter.com/…yuekit - Thanks Yeukit i'll have a look. It's noteable that it was tweeted by Brett himself no less.Morning_star
- This is a Reddit convo about the retraction. https://www.reddit.c…Morning_star
- The more I read about ivermectin, seems like it's safe at regular doses but toxic if you take too much.yuekit
- The original study that started all the interest showed that it killed SARS 2 virus in cells...but at incredibly high doses.yuekit
- You can kill a lot of things that way, but doesn't mean it will work as a medicine. Since then there have been a bunch of studies showing conflicting outcomes.yuekit
- Everything is toxic at a high enough dose. You can't on one hand claim studies show evidence that 'ABC' and then in the same argument claim that there hasn't...Morning_star
- ...been any proper studies to show any meaningful results. One or the other.Morning_star
- What hasn't been proven is that it will work well to prevent or treat COVID-19 in humans. There's a big difference between injecting something into cells in ayuekit
- @yuekit - Have a listen to the new podcast. I've posted separately. It addresses all of the point you bring up.Morning_star
- lab and it being safe and effective for real world use. If the dose needed to prevent COVID is so high, this could have negative side effects obviously.yuekit
- I also wonder...just on a common sense basis...entire countries have been using this drug out of desperation for about a year now. Brazil for instance was bigyuekit
- on the ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. And of course it's a total disaster there.yuekit
- You can point to countries where they used it and things weren't so bad. But if it was a drug that could end the pandemic, wouldn't experts have noticed by now?yuekit
- You'd think that would be the case.Morning_star