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After the reported 'gotcha' moment that @yeukit linked to regarding the potential issues with Ivermectin meta analysis, Brett Weinstein talks to Tess Lawrie (MD and PHD, external analyst for the World Health Organization, and an expert in analysis of medical evidence) about the meta analysis results amongst other things.
- Thanks will listen...I do think you have to factor that these two are strongly invested in it working. So probably good to listen to an opposing view as well.yuekit
- I understand where you're coming from, the issue for me is that they are both scientists and their reputation rests on their ability to be scientific and work..Morning_star
- ...within the established scientific principles. It does neither of them any favours to be factually incorrect. Both are willing to change their views.Morning_star
- 42min 11sec. Just listen.Morning_star
- I got 20 minutes in so far :) With disclaimer that obviously this is not my area of expertise...it seems like other people have raised a lot of questions aboutyuekit
- how well you can trust a "meta analysis" to give you a good answer for something like this. You could draw a comparison with what someone like Nate Silver doesyuekit
- in the field of polling. He devised a system where you can feed all these polls into an algorhythm, try to correct for bias and...as you saw in the last twoyuekit
- elections, it doesn't always work. The difference is that people like Nate Silver are drawing on thousands of polls, here Tess Lawrie is drawing on a grandyuekit
- total of three studies when it comes to the ability of ivermectin to prevent infection. Many people have criticized a number of studies she is using as badlyyuekit
- flawed, not just the big one that was retracted. So it seems like her overall approach is being questioned, even beyond this one study.yuekit
- @yuekit. It's her job and she does it for the WHO. I love your confidence but really, do you honestly know better?Morning_star
- I'm not coming up with this myself lol...I was trying to summarize what I've read. Check some of the discussions on Twitter related to this topic.yuekit
- This is a good summary...very balanced.
https://www.youtube.…yuekit - No one's saying it couldn't be useful as a treatment. The question is whether the available studies justify the dramatic conclusions some people are making.yuekit
- Here's a more critical but also very detailed analysis...
https://sciencebased…yuekit - Thanks, I’ll have a read. :)Morning_star