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So, some people reject the covid vaccines that have been extensively tested for efficacy against covid, approved and are currently in use on millions up millions of people worldwide (and are actively working very effectively). Their fears often being that the vaccines are 'experimental' or were 'rushed into production' (despite neither being true).
BUT, now they are willing to take an existing anti parasitic medication that has almost no trials of efficacy against covid...on a whim and some rumours. Even if it does turn out to be useful, their previously logic of not wanting to take experimental or unproven medication falls down.
Hmm, it's almost like their logic is flawed.
- To be fair, double vaxxed people are still getting sick (perhaps dying less), still spreading the virus. The assumption of superiority is a bit overblown.monNom
- Not sure @B implied superiority, but if the incidence of severe covid is now mostly seen in the unvaxxed, then clearly it is 'superior' in function.Nairn
- Then there's the bit about India offering ivermectin to entire population, and suddenly their cases fell off a cliff.
Not a double-blind study, but suggestive.monNom - We get it - chems can have alternate uses, so perhaps this deworming shit can be of use. I'm yet to see any evidence of it being so though.Nairn
- @B's point is that it's ridiculous these people are rejecting one flavour of science for another, when the former's very much "We dOn'T TruSt sCieNCe"Nairn
- I just don't get the mood today. People make their own decisions. Who cares if somebody eats vegan, or prefers advil over tylenol.monNom
- @monNom - so I thought what you said sounded odd as India has a FUCKING HUGE population, so I dug around.Nairn
- What gets me is that science is a process which gradually errs towards the truth. You either follow the process or not, you don't get to pick and choose.BaskerviIle
- http://shorturl.at/m…Nairn
- This seems to suggest there's not a lot of weight behind an interpretation of there being a positive correlation.Nairn
- It's people who question the vaccines (which have followed the scientific process) while unquestioningly adopting an (as yet) unproven treatment. InconsistentBaskerviIle
- @mon - i don't really care, it's their right to choose, in whatever regard. It's just stupid that some are shitting on proven vax, then using ...pseudo-science.Nairn
- Apparently one province (?) in India did not do the ivermectin thing and cases remained bad there... Again, who fucking knows, but it's an anecdote.monNom
- Stats, man. Funny fuckers.Nairn
- To think that we have this disease all figured out in a year and a half is a bit daft. Alternatives might lead to better understanding and a lasting cure.monNom
- But we're not going to get alternatives if we keep calling others stupid and dancing on their graves if they try something that they judge a decent alternative.monNom
- What scientist is going to be brave enough to risk their career to test 'horse dewormer' and get pilled on by the incredibly wealthy and powerful pharma co's?monNom
- A scientist sponsored by the pharmaCo that makes the deworming agent?Nairn
- It's off-patent. There's no incentive to run that study. A pharma-co I worked with years ago said it ~$2 Billion to get FDA approval for a new therapeutic use.monNom
- Probably way more now. So given the difficulty of recouping that expense with off-patent medicines, the studies do not get done.monNom
- haven't you just answered your own question?Fax_Benson
- I guess I've answered the question why its not FDA approved for that use... doesn't change whether it works or not. That's an open question.monNom
- Just let folk take it, get on the party busPhanLo
- Two words. Nobel Prize.monospaced
- Big Pharma be like “why Ivermectine? WHY??! They could’ve chosen ANY generic drug, BUT they chose a WHO Essential Med for animals! WHYYYYY?!”maquito
- It even feels ironic. An anti parasitic for cattle! George Carlin shit.maquito
- I'm sure pharma companies are powerful, but the idea that they can lord over the rest of society, and the entire world grinds to a halt so they can make ayuekit
- little more profit...this isn't all that realistic is it? Why would governments and other industries allow that to happen?yuekit
- The reality is that cheap repurposed drugs have been used since the beginning...some of which work like steroid treatments, and others like hydroxychloroquineyuekit
- that are now proven not to work, and in fact probably killed tens of thousands of people worldwide.yuekit
- So there is really nothing to this conspiracy theory...all kinds of drugs, profitable or not, have been used and studied to treat COVID. Ivermectin has beenyuekit
- given to literally millions of people in spite of the evidence that it works looking increasingly weak.yuekit
- yuekit is right. Doesn’t take much more than common sense to see.monospaced