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  • yuekit4

    According to the CDC (based on analyzing 600,000 cases) even with the Delta variant being vaccinated makes you:

    11 times less likely to die
    5 times less likely to get infected
    10 times less likely to be hospitalized

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/s…

    Thinking back to all these people at the beginning of 2020 who kept saying "it's just the flu"...

    Maybe this is actually a good way to explain vaccination to people who are confused by some number of "breakthrough" cases...no it's not perfect but it essentially makes COVID-19 into a less serious disease about as dangerous as the flu.

    • Us non vaxxers dont trust the stats tho'Brabo_Brabo
    • Go ahead, take your clot shot. But why should my decision be of any concern to you?Brabo_Brabo
    • my body, my choice.. no go and "tidy your room"Brabo_Brabo
    • 99.97% survival rate science denier. Put your numbers into context.Hayoth
    • Reminder: Hayoth and Brabo are foolsnb
    • 11x of virtual zero is still zero. you just made your 3rd grade teacher mad.pr2
    • EVERY vaccine works against the virus, and EVERY vaccine falls flat on its face after 6 months while naturally inquired immunity stays strong.pr2
    • pr2 you're talking as if millions of people haven't died from this. Over 700,000 in the USA alone. Some estimates put it at nearly 10 million globally.yuekit
    • So you're saying it's not worth reducing that by 11 times because...actually I don't know what your argument is.yuekit
    • What's so hard about getting a vaccine and then everyone gets a booster shot every half year? Literally just involves walking down to the local pharmacy.yuekit
    • yuekit short: no. long: I wouldn’t feel too good if I had to start taking some medication regularly, and there are a few million healthy humans agree with me.sted
    • So on one hand it's a problem that vaccine immunity fades over time...but at the same time, booster shot is also bad?yuekit
    • any survival rate you can pull out of your arse (officially 98.2% in known cases but obvs higher) includes the vaccinated who are 99% protected against deathkingsteven
    • It wouldn't be regularly, most likely just one or two times until the pandemic ends.yuekit
    • from earlier strains. more accurate to say all the deaths are unvaxxed. than multiply that zero (when you should be dividing)kingsteven
    • 2000 preventable deaths per day because your scared of a shot that killed (< 6500 people out of 160,000,000)kingsteven
    • the reason for bobo, hayo, pr2 to reject vax is really simple. they dont wanna do what libs say they should do. simple as that. even if 10M died.pango
    • of the 700k deaths in US, 600k+ are over 65yo. this pandemic is deadly to old people. period. you want your 11x reduction in old people?...pr2
    • ...then find a way to do so without affecting the rest of the population, including the scared shitless tactics as if the virus was deadly to you or me.pr2
    • and don't feed me the BS that somehow my mask wearing affects your grandma's survival.pr2
    • it does.pango
    • If you were visiting your grandparents in the middle of a pandemic, would you not think it's better if everyone is vaccinated first?yuekit
    • You're not wrong that it overwhelmingly affects old people, but you're failing to consider some very basic stuff about how viruses spread.yuekit
    • He doesn’t understand but thinks people are stupid because they do.monospaced
    • if you re scared of vax and mask more than 10 million death, just say it.pango
    • vax for grandma who chooses this option = fine; vax for the rest is an insane solution.pr2
    • you don't use sledgehammer to kill a fly, and it seems this is exactly the sort of solution that was chosen to deal with the virus.pr2
    • vaccine slows the spread among the population, including those over 65 who have not or cannot be vaccinated, you dense fuckmonospaced
    • it also keeps anyone under 65 from dying when they may have before, and I can't see any reason why any of this would be an issue with anyone with any moralitymonospaced
    • So, say your kid contracts it at school ... they're cool. You're cool. But they might pass it to their grandparent or other anti-vax fucktards.monospaced
    • They, in turn, pass it on to others who may die. The thing here is that a vaccine helps stop that process. Do you not understand, really?monospaced
    • Those at risk are either unvaccinated, or vaccinated and with a weak enough system that it breaks through. We need to at least care about this.monospaced
    • But calling people stupid and scared for vaccinating is, frankly, stupid. It's a measure we can take, without risk, to end the pandemic part of this. You shouldmonospaced
    • do your part. Stop being afraid of a minor inconvenience, because when you do, you just come off as a selfish, idiotic bitch.monospaced
    • so according to your twisted logic, my 6 year old shall suffer loss of his learning ability, maybe even life-long contempt for school...pr2
    • ...where he's being told to sit still behind dividers and do "homework" all day long only so that he could not infect imaginary grandma?pr2
    • you got some way to look at reality.pr2
    • just admit it. you rather 10M death than vax or mask. otherwise you just look like you are purposely trying not to understand.pango
    • son, let me blow your mind - every fucking year, every fucking year at least 70mil people died without your worry what-so-ever.pr2
    • then 2019 came and you started to shit your pants. bro, you got quite a lot of shitting to catch up.pr2
    • so you want another 10M top of that?
      70M dies already so fuck that 10M preventable death right?
      pango
    • just say it. you rather 10M dead than wear mask and vax. quit pretending you care about them science. it's just an excuse for you.pango
    • just say it, you are so easily manipulated by the media that when 70mil die each year you don't care but 10mil - oh, you are livid!pr2
    • Tbh. I don't know the detail how 70M died. But this 10M was cause by one single event. The pandemic. We know that, you know that. But you just anti Vax and maskpango
    • You anti Vax and mask. Thats fine but keep that fuckery to your self. Don't come on internet and whine.pango
    • Better idea. go breach to all your friends and families.pango
    • *preachpango
    • Make sure you get to all of thempango

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