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    You test covid vax for adults, you get 46,000 participants, you test covid vax for kids 5-11, you get 2,300...

    Some great minds went behind this thinking.

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    • Any science paper with only 2300 participants would be thrown into "maybe" pile and yet here we have FDA recommendation.pr2
    • There is science and there is government-sponsored "science".pr2
    • pr2, you seem to be consistently under the impression that somehow 'science' is infallible and that 'science papers' are the bastion of integrity and rigor...Morning_star
    • ...2300 participants in a trial is statistically significant and many times more than most 'science papers' get.Morning_star
    • pr2 knows better than the groups with combined millenia of experiencemonospaced
    • 2300 is significant to put the findings into "maybe" category - it is NOT even close to make policy for a 300mil+ country.pr2
    • there is a crap load of papers with thousands of participants, some going into tens or even hundreds of thousands.pr2
    • Through all of your protestations that we should believe in the science you consistently misunderstand statistics and dismiss social factors. Some of your...Morning_star
    • ...claims are valid discussion points but your ability reject any pushback as a personal afront is puzzling.Morning_star
    • what's puzzling is how my cool attitude of simply looking at invalidity of sample size you mistranslate as "personal affront"pr2
    • what's puzzling is that you think you know better than the people conducting the tests and doing the science itselfmonospaced
    • what's puzzling to me is that you continuously refuse acknowledge the thousands of scientist who disagree with the political status quo.pr2
    • pr2 you have a point. There is certainly not scientific consensus. However, you are wrong about 2300 participants not being significant.Morning_star
    • as i said, it goes into "maybe" bucket. when you have papers that deal with dozens and even hundreds of thousands, 2k is paltry.pr2
    • there IS a reason why EVERY original covid study employed 20-30x that number.pr2
    • If the scientific community continually had consensus it would be broken. Debate, peer review etc are cornerstones.BaskerviIle
    • https://www.fda.gov/…yuekit
    • Doesn't that say 4,600 participants? Or are you talking about a different study?yuekit
    • @pr2 - "The number of subjects usually ranges from several hundred to about 3,000 people. If the FDA agrees that the trial results are positive...Morning_star
    • ..., it will approve the experimental drug or device. A Phase IV trial for drugs or devices takes place after the FDA approves their use.Morning_star
    • It's weird that there are people who think the vaccines are going to kill you or something but that COVID itself is not dangerous.yuekit
    • The way the mRNA vaccines work is to have your body produce only the spike protein of the vaccine. It's not even a traditional vaccine where a deactivatedyuekit
    • version of the virus is injected. The mRNA and protein is quickly gone from your body.yuekit
    • So if you are scared of the vaccine you should be terrified of getting COVID-19 since it contains not only this spike protein but also the actual virus.yuekit
    • yuekit, if you jump out of the airplane once and live through it, do you jump again to let your body learn what that feels like? everyone in NYC had the virus..pr2
    • so why to force the vaccine if by now we know well documented serious reactive consequences? you won the Russian roulette one.pr2
    • nobody takes seriously papers with a few hundred participants, a few thousands can be takes seriously but it's those that have massive numbers that r definitivepr2
    • https://www.nytimes.…yuekit
    • i don't read NYT, so you gotta present more credible source of info.pr2
    • Is that enough people for you? Over 50% of the world population.yuekit
    • moreover: immune system of an adult ≠ that of a child.pr2
    • It's actually interesting, I don't know there was such vaccine as "Sputnik Light" or "COVIran Barekat."yuekit
    • We used to have the "National Enquirer" for fact-less curiosities, nowdays we have NYT.pr2
    • It's not a news story, just a page tracking how many people have been vaccinated worldwide.yuekit
    • Pretty amazing that more than half the population of the world, almost 4 billion people, have already received at least one dose.yuekit
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