Artificial Intelligence
Artificial Intelligence
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A colleague from another agency/ studio told me they pitched on a job for a big ice cream brand and they generated images with Midjourney of beautiful ice-cream settings.
The client was like "Wow, holy shit. We want that!"
And each piece was probably generated in few minutes.
Jesus christ, we are entering interesting times.
The question now is how long until clients want to see high-quality stuff for even much less budgets because they think everything is just a press of a button.
- Your colleague is a moron, that is not copyrighted work they can use in commercial settings.
It's like they went on google images and used images from there!grafician - lol, are you sure.NBQ00
- It'll be brutal, just adapt, embrace it.shapesalad
- @grafician
I've used Google image searches as reference before. What world are you living on?palimpsest - Besides, there is no copyright on AI generated images that I know of.palimpsest
- Pitch != final workkalkal
- I would never be salty about gaining time on a pitch. A pitch is about selling.palimpsest
- @ graf: https://www.youtube.…NBQ00
- NOT referenced, but actual images taken directly and sold! It's a difference, learn it
So unless you make it, you can't really re-sell the rightsgrafician - Not to mention many clients ask for deliverables AND the source files so good luck with AI generated shit and no layersgrafician
- @grafician is the type of guy to ask for copyright permission for an AI.palimpsest
- @NBQ are you kidding with that video?! The fact I raised the issue with copyrights in the first place should signal Ik more than you about itgrafician
- 100% lifelikested
- @pali you clearly missed the memo on AI art and copyrightsgrafician
- "AI art"*grafician
- Anyway, odd that on a fucking creative forum people don't know about copyrights...grafician
- Then why don't you read the Midjourney copyright sections, Mr. Knowitall. The Video highlights those excerpts.NBQ00
- Until the secretary of the big ice cream company learns how to use AI and the client fires his entire agency. WIN WINOBBTKN
- Tell me more grafician.
Please, daddy.palimpsest - @NBQ I K about midjourney licenses that's why I don't use it anymore, same with SD
Only DALL E these daysgrafician - lol, oh dear. We have a smartypants in here. I guess you know more than Midjourney itself then.NBQ00
- @OBB LOL no wonder all sorts fear the AI to take their jobs...grafician
- This bitch know more than yurimon.palimpsest
- Didn't you know, NBQ? grafician is an expert in AI imagery, military strategy and tactics, the stock market, art history, music, crypto, advertising, filmmakingContinuity
- Come to think about it, even DALL E is still not okay, as all these models are trained on scrapped images - basically "using" google images to create derivativegrafician
- So have fun with it, sure, but selling direct output in a commercial setting...wow.grafician
- What impresses me most is not the output but rather the abitlity to listen.
Something ya'll bitches need to learn.palimpsest - @Continuity you have problems with *Oktoberfest and I have problems over AI art copyrights - we are NOT the same :)grafician
- Aw shit! We got Fring up in this bitch now.palimpsest
- My dude, we's in Europe, we don't give a shit about politically correctness or being nice, if something needs to be said we say it.palimpsest
- That's right, grafician, we're not the same.
I don't go around an online forum pretending like I know everything about every subject.Continuity - Because YOU clearly don't and I actually read and learn about the topics I actually care. AND I share the bits and pieces for you to learn too :)grafician
- So instead of taking a personal affront whenever I post, how about you actually take some time and read about it too and let's have a discussion, shall we?grafician
- The only thing I've learned from you is that you have an overblown sense of your own capacities. When you have a spare moment, do educate yourselfContinuity
- ... on the Dunning Kruger Effect, and engage in a bit of self-reflection on how it might apply to you.Continuity
- long story short: you're allowed to use it for commercial stuff as long as it's not a blatant ripoff of an art piece or other stuff. Just like done manuallyNBQ00
- do you know how many pieces get inspired by and ripped off without AI? it's no different. so why are you acting like the video is saying shitNBQ00
- @Continuity why are you here then mate? To let us know your fucking opinion on Oktober fest and your non-existing knowledge about anything AI?grafician
- he's quoting from Midjourney copyright sections. so stop acting like you're above us all and know everything even better than the source itselfNBQ00
- I don't make myself all-knowing, is just that you morons know so little and you care about the dumbest of things.grafician
- I'm waiting on that grafician world salad clapback.palimpsest
- And there we have it!palimpsest
- lol grafician can turn any post about himself. smartest in the room.NBQ00
- Now sure, go ahead and downvote all my posts for no good reason cuz you're bitter salty old fuck'ups with no curiosity whatsoevergrafician
- The classic pigeon and chess board scenario.Continuity
- @NBQ mate by the looks of your posts you clearly have no clue about a LOT of topics around here. Just chill.grafician
- And now if you will excuse me, my soup is getting cold...grafician
- My dude, take it from me. You're being an idiot rigtht now.palimpsest
- ^ Patronising AND always has to have the last word.
grafician, ladies and gentlemen, give him a big hand. He's here all week.
Try the hummus.Continuity - My dude!palimpsest
- hahahaha this dude cracks me up on a rainy ThursdayNBQ00
- "So instead of taking a personal affront"
"Your colleague is a moron"
An attack is probably not the best way to opening to "educate"kalkal - My dude.palimpsest
- Don't start with the low ground then decide to take the high ground later, just start high and stay there.kalkal
- grafician's takes have always been ass. The only high ground is in his head.palimpsest
- "Your colleague is a moron" - graf, you still start off like this? How can you talk about your insatiable curiosity, and ability to obtain knowledge more than..canoe
- ...the rest of us squids, but never have learned how to be cordial? It makes me think you learn from the inside out. Thumbs downvote.canoe
- @canoe No, you're right, each to his own process, clearly my badgrafician
- Doesn't grafician have a point though? Just because an AI merges images together doesn't mean you aren't violating copyright if using it in an ad campaign.yuekit
- But AI doesn't merge images together. It's building images from references. If it were a human you could say it's "drawing them from memory".palimpsest
- The images are not an exact copy, they are really used as reference. It's not copying 100x100 pixels.palimpsest
- When you tell it to draw a cat it doesn't pic the first image of a cat it finds, as would Google. It uses the references it knows to be cats to produce a cat.palimpsest
- So it's not going to make up a cat out of nothing. Just are we can't make up a cat out of nothing. It's a matter of how "original" we perceive ourselves to be.palimpsest
- It's ultimately about people being afraid of their own condition.palimpsest
- But I AM specialGnash
- Don't worry Adobe will buy it soon and sort everything outyuekit
- I’m not sure graf has ever defeloped creative for a big pitch before, but pulling sources from copyrighted works is totally acceptable.monospaced
- You aren’t selling that work, it’s just to sell the idea. Not sure why you’re accusing people of not knowing how copyright works. Derp.monospaced
- @monospaced you worked for PwC all your life? what do you know about pitches?
And no, we were talking about AI art copyrights, it's something else, buzz offgrafician - AI doesn’t have to do much to take over. Clients are stupid and we’ll all be bitching in side notes on Adobe CC Judgment Day.MrT
- Your colleague is a moron, that is not copyrighted work they can use in commercial settings.