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Even if MRNA vaccines have lethal effects Anti-vaxxers are doing this the wrong way and often get mocked because their anti-vaxxing package comes with extras like the new world order, 5g, Putinism and so on... You guys need to pick a fight.
I'm a skeptic so I stand in between, I'm vaccinated but I always know that there are potential risks especially with new medical technologies.
My reasoning is simple. At the beginning Covid was highly deadly so I accepted the risks of a new vaccine, but as the time went on the virus mutated into a less harmful version so the risks of further vaccination started to outweigh the risk of dying from covid.
Here is an article relying on the numbers from Israel. The causality is contested.
What's not right is shutting down any research that can prove the otherwise. Unfortunately scientific world sometimes gets in a zealous frenzy and dismiss or don't consider other perspectives. And then the tiny bit of research gets grabbed by these nutjob sites and lose already little credibility.
A counter perspective could be looking at the countries that didn't use MRNA tech like China. It's obvious that they are having hard time dealing with covid more than mrna vaccinated countries but not enough data from there...https://www.nature.com/articles/…
- Maybe the real conspiracy is that the establishment is using these nutjob sites to discredit any research into vaccines.palimpsest
- A conspiracy theory I'm surprised no one thought of... what if corporations selling non mRNA vaccines are behind the disinfo campaigns about mRNA vaccineyuekit
- @Beeswax I think you have to keep in mind that anti-vaxxers aren't just this community of people concerned about vaccines, so much of it is astroturfed byyuekit
- different groups with an agenda. The Russian government is doing this, so are right-wing billionaires in USA. And probably others we don't know about.yuekit
- Anti-establishment narratives are in reality now the easiest way for wealthy and powerful interests to manipulate society.yuekit
- it's terrifying how quickly "scientists" can spew lies by making seemingly matter-of-fact statements even though there is zero evidence for it.pr2
- the first sentence of that paper couldn't be made with any certainty back in august when the paper was written (and has been proven false now)pr2
- It says both the disease itself and vaccines can cause heart issues. Which one of those is false?yuekit
- There's no question vaccines cause side effects for some people, but if you look at the numbers they're talking about it's in the single digits each day...yuekit
- At a time when they were carrying out a mass vaccination campaign across the country. That's enough to concern scientists to figure the cause butyuekit
- people wrongly interpret it as "vaccines are dangerous." If you gave everyone in the world aspirin, a small percentage of people would have side effects.yuekit
- There needs to be a sensible discussion on vaccine safety. There are loons on both sides of the extremes.Chimp
- I agree that it shouldn't be like a taboo topic or something. The evidence supports that they do cause heart issues but not on a large scale.yuekit
- Can you at least agree that the media rammed every covid death down your throat but haven't mentioned one single death from the vaccine?Hench
- You don't think that's strange? You think they care about your health when it's covid related but not when it's vaccine related?Hench