Artificial Intelligence
Artificial Intelligence
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- scarabin1
In regards to so-called “art theft”- AI training on artist’s work- i can’t even get upset about that.
I as a meat bag personally trained on millions of art pieces without the author’s consent. I’ve stolen concepts and styles and used them for years to my own ends. Everyone here has. That’s why we study art. It’s one of the reasons QBN exists. We share and consume new works in the world and our training base grows.
Every time you publish a piece you risk someone ripping it off. Design an incredible new chair and within a year there will be mass-produced knockoffs. It’s always been that way.
- A style trend is impossible without folks riffing on the original creator’s lookscarabin
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- Agee, impossible for any artist not to have been influenced, inspired by or straight up copied any artist before him_niko
- yea... but your not a company (midjourney) creating a commercial product charging coustomers per render based on stolen assets.jonny_quest_lives
- also agree_niko
- even the latest quotes from the midjourney founder David Holz are cringe...jonny_quest_lives
- "How was the dataset built?" David Holz: "It’s just a big scrape of the Internet. "jonny_quest_lives
- for a commercial product.jonny_quest_lives
- "Did you seek consent from living artists or work still under copyright?"jonny_quest_lives
- David Holz: "No. There isn’t really a way to get a hundred million images and know where they’re coming from. "jonny_quest_lives
- As a commercial artist i’m a company creating a product (posters) and charging clients per comp based on “stolen assets” (reference material).scarabin
- You use “david carson” in your mental prompts when masking an edgy new type piece. Even if it’s subconsciously, you’re “stealing” from past artistsscarabin
- but you assume all the copyright infringement as you are sentient and if you get too close to your "reference"jonny_quest_lives
- people are going to call out your theft and shit on your work as theft unless you brought a fresh new spin to the workjonny_quest_lives
- prompting isn't puling scrap, mediating on a design, sitting through a crit, making revs then dealing with client feedback.jonny_quest_lives
- ...which i do. Which midjourney also does. My point is that anti-ai folks’ definition of “theft” is no different than what we do as people naturally.scarabin
- i do. not fear this technology oin the slightest as long as their are marketing departments with changes. i just feel the datasets need to be built on publicjonny_quest_lives
- domain work and artists who actually opt in to the training. clients are alway going to client and this tech could be revolutionary if they slow downjonny_quest_lives
- and rebuild their training models. also "in the style of" propmting needs to be adressed especially if it's a commercial productjonny_quest_lives
- but what was the goal of midjourney?jonny_quest_lives
- they aren't offering it to everyone for free cuz it "emulates: human artistry. i refuse to assign an algorithm human sentience or give it a pass.jonny_quest_lives
- it's software made a by a company and as such they have to abide by legal restraints not only in the US but the world.jonny_quest_lives
- They've created a commercial product capable of reproducing copyright works near instantly and charge users for it.jonny_quest_lives