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I received a referral from a client. This possible new client is obviously well-funded as the referring client provided the venture capital to put them in business.
The 'new' client however... is a pain in the ass. I haven't done any work for them yet and I'm guessing I probably won't be as the owner is overly ignorant to the design process. :(
My problem is my relationship w/the referring client possibly being damaged...
The 'new' client doesn't see anything in the body of work I sent them (A small folio site w/a variety of design / illustration / animation from over the last 5 years).
"You look very talented but I don't see anything in your portfolio that relates to my business."
*sigh... Do I begin designing 'for free' for this fucker to show I can be appropriate to his needs? I swore I wouldn't ever go that route again. A good designer is appropriate to the client's needs (meaning: I'll do my fucking research, talk to you and yours and we'll get your shit sorted out blah blah blah like any normal graphic designer does w/a new client).
This guy wants to see something specific to his industry AND that suits him emotionally... ...I gently explained to him that that is why you hire a 'good' graphic designer w/a track record of providing solutions for a variety of different clientele.
I don't think that concept is making sense / sitting well w/him. The only reason I'm even contemplating going the 'design to get the job route' is that I don't want to piss off the referring client...
... I just need to get a fucking job and be done w/the nonsense. 20+ years of jerking off mom-and-pop shops has taken its toll.
- nope - refer him to your referrer and be done with it.hans_glib
- You have a good excuse to not work with the new client: "he doesn't want to work with you". Why would you make an effort to work with him?palimpsest
- I don't how the referring client would be pissed at you.palimpsest
- I left this out: The referring client in passing asked about the newb and I explained the situation. "Maybe you can design them an example?" :/PonyBoy
- I guess you didn't answer "No, go fuck yourself".
Word is bond.palimpsest - Run away, fast. This has all the hallmarks of a lengthy back and forth where you waste lots of time trying to placate someone who doesn't know what they...Morning_star
- ...want. If it's something you can't get out of charge him by the hour, lawyer style.Morning_star
- I often really dislike referrals via existing clients because of shit like this. Tricky. Good luck :\Nairn
- fuck him. move on.milfhunter
- Sometimes not having specific industry work can be spun as a positiveGnash
- Sometimes not having specific industry work can be spun as a positiveGnash
- oopsGnash
- oopsGnash
- I art directed a Ski magazine for a number of years. Got the gig without having any sports crap in my folio, and I don't ski.Gnash
- If he doesn't trust you can do it now, he's going to be a nightmare moving forward. Sorry you can't take this one on as I know you were looking for new clients.monospaced
- I pitched that a new perspective is what they neededGnash
- Do you like his business? A good designer can take on almost any project but they won't be right for everything.doggydoggdog
- Maybe he's an asshole to avoid, but he should like your work before anything else.doggydoggdog
- "Design them an example" on spec? All caps FUCK THAT. Even if it goes through with the end, this seems like a toxic channel of employment.garbage
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