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- utopian9
- Well, colonizer Jesus wondrgs
- He only won because his daddy was a fraud.monospaced
- nepo baby!pango
- nepo baby zombie death cultmonospaced
- eat his flesh, drink his blood, gaze upon his body nailed to a cross, and worship him or else this asshole will torture you for eternity, because he loves you.monospaced
- literally makes no sensemonospaced
- David O'Doherty?MrT
- no solid "historical" Jesus though outside of obscure referencesinteliboy
- LolGnash
- Good thing the historical existence of Jesus has no bearing whatsoever on any of the supernatural claims surrounding him.monospaced
- There absolutely is a secular scholarly consensus on his historicity.garbage
- White Jesus is also real: He lives in the hearts of believers and makes them pay rent..garbage
- ..and lives rent-free in the minds of people who've never passed grade-school atheism.garbage
- I don't see how they can be so sure he was real just because there are a handful of references in other texts.yuekit
- My guess would be he was a real person but there's a weird disconnect between the claims there's a consensus and what the actual evidence is.yuekit
- Dat5timuli
- @yue Full disclosure: I'm an atheist that studied theology and almost went into the ministry when I was young.garbage
- There's way more than a handful of evidence there was a historical Jesus (or even multiple people). But the Christian religion has had two millennia to..garbage
- ..write whatever narrative they want, and so much was lost in translation. Even the "Joshua" in this image is wrong.garbage
- I can bore the hell out of you with Jesus, lol.garbage
- I go to church for my wife, last time I just stared at the cross thinking, "dang, who is this white guy, I feel sorry for him, accused of crimes he ddnt commit.canoe
- @garbage You're probably right then...I do wonder how accurate the details people repeat about him are.yuekit
- Do you think Jesus himself claimed to be the son of god or was all of that embellished after the fact?yuekit
- That's where things get really fucking muddy. From what I know, he was essentially a very charismatic cult leader that upset the ruling religious ruling class..garbage
- ..the Pharisees were planning on kidnapping and killing him silently for a bit, but then saw Judas, and how cheaply he could be bought off.garbage
- So they essentially sold Jesus to the Romans, gaining favor with them and making an example of a cult leader in one swoop.garbage
- He preached some good things, but yeah probably also thought he was the son of God.garbage
- The Gospel of Mark, which is the foundation of the New Testament was written 70 years after his death. Just imagine the holy phone game happening there.garbage
- But there are plenty of contemporary texts that revere him. Many Islamic denominations consider Isa / Jesus the final prophet, but not the son of god.garbage
- But yeah, end religious rant because I could go on for boring day after day.garbage
- Yeah interesting thanks! I think it shows the degree of Christian influence on society that even non-religious people tend to automatically assume Jesus was ayuekit
- good person. A lot of ideas attributed to him are positive but if you look at the basic personality type, it would probably be someone like Joseph Smith oryuekit
- David Koresh. But you almost never hear that discussed, it's like a black pill that would too upsetting for Western society to consider.yuekit
- But like you said it's like a game of telephone. It could also be that his followers embellished all of that.yuekit
- I believe he was real. I just don't believe he was anything but a man.monospaced
- you dont believe he could do Criss Angel
shit and walk on water?!?!?!pango - blasphemy!!pango