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    An easy way to define woke:

    True share of gay/trans people worldwide is around 1-2% (this includes closet homosexuals). This has probably been this way thought all times.

    LGBT identification in US in 2023 is 7.5% (openly gay/queer).
    (5.6% in 2021.
    4.1% in 2016.
    3.5% in 2012.)

    So, you have a difference of 5-6% which constitutes a layer of cultural parasites, people who are "identifying out of heterosexuality to gain the perceived cache of an oppressed minority" © i_monk

    And, to add to that, who in the end will potentially end up hurting the original 1-2% gay core by the bad PR they bring to the table.

    Similarly with race wokeness which is almost always represented not by people of color themselves, but by some lilac-haired intermediaries.

    Basically these "intermediaries" represent the woke horde.

    This makes all discussions about wokeness very confusing because it feels like you're attacking the original 1-2% core of gay people, but in reality eveyone should understand: all critique is targeted at the woke leeches.

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    • I wouldn't have a clue but you seem to be making a massive assumption on the numbers - what they mean and why they might have changedFax_Benson
    • I'm comparing to lgbt identification in non-woke western countries. Say, Norway is at 1.2%drgs
    • Old data, but still https://williamsinst…drgs
    • could people feel less comfortable identifying non-hetero in 'non-woke' countries, or did feel less comfortable in 2012 compared to 2023?Fax_Benson
    • I don't know. 7+% seems high to me, anecdotally, but it's a leap to assume half of those are lying about being gay without a bit more insightFax_Benson
    • Assume that the real share of lgbt in Norway was 7+% in 2011. This means that 85% of all gay Norwegians were in the closet in 2011. I really, really doubt thatdrgs
    • You think 7% is high?
      https://datawrapper.…      drgs
    • Yeah 7% probably ridiculously high. if you remove experimenting college girls and only fans simp baiters then the real number is closer to .01%_niko
    • Lilac hair isn’t an indicator of “true gayness” so how about not attacking any of them? Why not ignore the people you’re hating on instead of giving themscarabin
    • ...the oppression you claim they want? You’re just feeding the cycle with your “brave and cool” reposting of hate memesscarabin
    • I did not understand what you wrote. To me lilac hair is an indicator of fake gayness. What are fake queers oppressed by?drgs
    • Lol. You honestly think “true” lgbt folks never color their hair? That’s just ignorant. And you just said fake queers wanted to be an “oppressed minority”scarabin
    • So you tell me. I’m guessing it involves dumping on folks onlinescarabin
    • Ok, you try: why is there a 2-fold difference between gen z and millennials. We are in 2023, all groups should feel comfortable enough to come out of the closetdrgs
    • Assume there are no fakes, and gen z is the most liberated generation:
      https://datawrapper.…      drgs
    • So, all other generations should also be around 20%. How come there are differences? I'm genuinely interested in any explanationsdrgs
    • You’re genuinely perplexed as to why a boomer might still be a boomer in 2023?scarabin
    • By the concept of a younger generation being more accepting of life on the kinsey scale?scarabin
    • You keep complaining about “LGBTQ” becoming a longer, more inclusive acronym and then are surprised when more people appear to fall under that flag?scarabin
    • No, I am perplexed as to why half of millennials (my age) are in the closetdrgs
    • You really imagine folks are sucking dick and then after taking a load in their mouth are like “sike, i’m just doing this for the upvotes”?scarabin
    • This I also want to find outdrgs
    • When I think about it, they are not doing anything/not having sex/share of virgins is approaching Japanese levelsdrgs
    • Maybe because the millennial community isn’t as accepting as gen Z. I mean look at you. Who would wanna come out around someone like you?scarabin
    • This graph shows exactly this -- share of people who have not had sex
      https://datawrapper.…      drgs
    • ...and be immediately labeled a “fake queer”?scarabin
    • That's my working theorydrgs
    • Did you post the wrong graph? It sounds like you’re suggesting there are some folks not having sex and that they’re all secret fake queersscarabin
    • Clearly a trend
      https://pbs.twimg.co…
      vs
      https://datawrapper.…      drgs
    • Uh huh. And you’re suggesting those are the fake queers?scarabin
    • They’ve given up sex so they can dye their hair and drink bud light?scarabin
    • I am. But what came first chicken or the egg? Are people identifying as lgbt because they are not having sex, or the other way around?drgs
    • Whatever it is, its the same country which has "no homo promo" and "don't say gay" laws, same as Russia. America is a truly sick societydrgs
    • You’re assuming a true correlation when there’s no evidence to support it so your question is loadedscarabin
    • I asked you for your theorydrgs
    • Asexuality is a form of sexuality and folks are becoming more comfortable coming out as whatever nowscarabin
    • Maybe look at japan like you mentioned, for other socio-economic factors. Assuming they’re all fake queer agents of woke is a bit paranoidscarabin
    • The japanese virgins do not hide behind LGBT labelsdrgs
    • Right, which is another reason why assuming all asexuals in the US doing so is sillyscarabin
    • "LGBTQRSTUV" keeps getting longer because the LGB organizations of the 70s–90s needed to stay relevant. Nearly everyone after the "B" is straight.i_monk
    • Just to save you the time drgs, Scarabin won the argument like 25 posts ago. There's no need for you to respond againbogue
    • I identified as asexual too, because I wasn't ready to accept I was gay. Some of these identities are coping strategies for gays and women seeking to avoid whati_monk
    • tends to come along with being gay or a woman in a straight society. The rest are tumblr affectations and social contagions that did not exist until 10 yrs ago.i_monk
    • Spicy straights are now larping oppression having never faced the devastation of HIV, being denied housing or a job, denied equal rights, etc, and can (and do)i_monk
    • fall back on their straightness whenever it's convenient.i_monk
    • ^ well saidGnash
    • I would venture a guess that younger people are closer to/in that experimentation age. they're more open to considering it today than people were 30+ years agocotton
    • 'Spicy straights' lol, love it. +1,Nairn
    • The devastation of HIV is from all the unprotected, stupid buttfucking with strangers, so don't play the victim card here.crazyprick
    • I’m bi and in a straight LTR. That does not make me any less bi. I always have been & still amshellie
    • But being bi is the least of my problems. Sexuality is something you can hide in public or work. I’ve had my share of oppression as a Black woman in America.shellie
    • Shellie, I'm not trying to undermine your experiences. 'oppression' as a broad definition means unjust treatment under the guise of government authority.hotroddy
    • What have your experiences with oppression been in California if any?hotroddy
    • feel free to avoid the question if it's too personal. It's not every day I get to ask this to someone who feels this way and I genuinely want to learn.hotroddy
    • I have faced extreme abd sometimes scary forms of oppression and racism even in california, yes. Down to ky 5th grade teacher denying access to advanced classesshellie
    • To being followed for being in a biracial relationship and holding hands in public. Si yes opression based on race exidts even in “left” states.shellie
    • Im surprised i have to explain that to someone. Black people are not imagining this experience. we are being shot and killed for our skin color all the time!shellie
    • Im 100% sure with my AAA credit and offers of full years rent up front, race had to do with me being denied housing by an owner/landlord but cant prove it.shellie
    • But i was first to view and put in an offer, still lost to another offer put in after me. Just moved on after instead of fighting it. Fight woulda cost me $.shellie
    • For the record @hotroddy most of california are not democrats thats just a few cities. Go 40 miles to places like Redlands and you might as well be in Texasshellie
    • Left leaning counties in CA are more populated and have more voting power. But Ive been screamed at with the N-word & ran off the road just miles from my house.shellie
    • And that incident happed while up in the mountains maybe 75 miles from my house in LA (Big Bear).shellie
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