Russia-Ukraine Invasion

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    ‘Starve, Stretch and Strike’: Ukraine’s Summer Offensive Strategy
    The latest views of experts and evidence compiled by Kyiv Post, increasingly suggests that Ukraine’s “slow” offensive progress is an intentional tactic aimed at exacting a high Russian toll.
    https://www.kyivpost.com/post/19…

    The Russians which are going to die in the coming months are already dead, or let's say -- have already been sacrificed by Putin. Zaluzhnyi, whose plan is only now starting to emerge, is only an instrument which will make it happen.

    Without cheap oratorical tricks, this modest, unassuming, chubby Ukrainian, is a true envoy from the highest authority of the world, a bearer of a secret message, a message about Death, about the strange dignity of what has left the realm of transformations.

    It seems that his whole being is intensely peering into the impenetrable dark horizon.

    Valerii Zaluzhny, the silent messenger of Death.

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    • One of the (two) comments in the article is absolutely correct: without air support in the form of F-16s and attack helicopters, Urkaine has no choice but toContinuity
    • ... do it this way.Continuity
    • Why are russians bombing Kyiv --most of the rockets are shot down anyway? To keep Ukrainian defense rockets systems busy/away from the frontlinedrgs
    • Once russian artillery starts to dry up, all they have is the most expensive of their trump cards which they havent touched so far -- the aviationdrgs
    • So, the last battle will be himars vs russian attack helicoptersdrgs
    • Yeah, but HIMARS isn't anti-aircraft, though, is it?Continuity
    • If it comes down to UKR v Russian aviation, I'm not sure UKR can hold up, unless they've got some slick new AA toys to play with.Continuity
    • And UKR _not_ having dependable aircraft means they can never get superiority over their own airspace. Not a good situation.Continuity
    • That having noted, Wikipedia says: 'On 3 July 2023, Ukrainian Marines of the 36th Marine Brigade (Ukraine) claimed to have shot down a Ka-52 helicopter with ...Continuity
    • ... a FGM-148 Javelin.'
      And we've always known since the start of this thing that UKR are nothing if not creative with what they've got.
      Continuity
    • Aviation is expensive, for both sides (ie. Ukraine's helpers). I have some hope that the lack of F16/18s is some kind of "fog of war" and that hundredsdrgs
    • of fighters will suddenly show up when Russians expect them the least.drgs
    • Only way F16/18s get involved is if NATO declares war. You need highly capable pilots to fly and fight in those aircrafts. Along with bases, arms, fuel, etc...IRNlun6
    • Best thing US/NATO can do is to ramp down this conflict and negotiate for peace.IRNlun6
    • 20+ years of the war on terror should have taught everyone that they'll do and say anything to make it worse.IRNlun6
    • Ukraine is long losing this war, as their and EU citizens are... The only winners are the military conglomerate, as always. F***g sad!OBBTKN
    • They are training the pilots
      https://www.nytimes.…
      drgs
    • I've read the same. "...but experts say it might take less time than once thought" Doubt it. And it's not just the pilots but the logistics and infrastructure.IRNlun6
    • Don't get me wrong. Do I think the US/NATO will get involved? They already are and I fear it will get much worse. And the public will applause!IRNlun6

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