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    China is set to become the world’s biggest car exporter this year, overtaking Japan. The watershed moment will mark the end of decades of dominance by European, American, Japanese and South Korean groups.

    https://www.ft.com/content/cdcb0…

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    • quantity over qualityimbecile
    • What are the names of Chinese car co's? Wonder how they'll fit in price wisePhanLo
    • let foreign companies to build factories
      with innovative technologies.      sted
    • create a law what makes close to impossible to bring out profit from the country.sted
    • create an other law to make it impossible to control these companies.sted
    • let a few rich chinese take over the factories these foreign companies abandoned due to these laws.sted
    • @PhanLo BYD, Nio, Leapmotor, XPENGsted
    • Li Auto, Changan, GAC Group, Beiqi Foton, Brilliance, Hawtai.
      these have proper factories and R&D      sted
    • +JAC Motorssted
    • germans got fucked few years ago, so some of these (mostly the new EV/PHEV ones) are using the WV factory lines for example.sted
    • @Phanlo - the surge is in the EV sector, which surged post-pandemic. China dominates the world in lithium-ion battery cell production - producing more than halfKhurram
    • the world’s lithium supply as well as having more than half of the world's refining capacity.Khurram
    • "As a result, some of the world’s largest auto companies have set up production facilities in China, including Tesla and BMW...Khurram
    • However, Moody’s noted that the foreign brands did not eclipse local ones like Chery and SAIC."Khurram
    • https://www.cnbc.com…Khurram
    • sted - sounds like it's a little bit unfair that China has become the world's leading car exporter?Khurram
    • A review of a Chinese EV: https://www.youtube.…Khurram
    • Be afraid Euro-America! Be very afraid! ;PKhurram
    • https://www.youtube.…Khurram
    • no thanks. i'll wait few more years for the review.pango
    • not unfair, its a business.
      Nio -> VW E-golf production line and battery pack.      sted
    • look at reviews of their flagship tesla killer luxury brand: BYD :Dsted
    • none of the articles mention how the sales or expense/profit ratios look like for these brands. because they work with a huge marginsted
    • pango - why so hostile? :-/Khurram
    • I don't know much about cars sted, but this looks dope! https://www.youtube.…Khurram
    • Also did you check out the new Huawei Mate60 Pro??? :O
      https://www.cnn.com/…      Khurram
    • Chyna!Khurram
    • hostile? nahhh. cautious.pango
    • only a fool wouldn't be cautious of CCPpango
    • that looks cool. there is an insane amount of tuning opportunities in these and sooner or later the playground will be open for everyone.sted
    • ahaha yeah poor Huawei, they just can't let it go.sted
    • what is the most disgusting about that there are plenty of lawsuits ongoing/settled about license and patent violations but not too many get the samested
    • level of news coverage what Huawei does.sted
    • who cares about patent violations. why isn't everything like fashion—you can't patent or copyright a sewing pattern. ...doesnotexist
    • i saw an exact duplicate of a g wagon in detroit the other day, all except the mercedes logo. pretty impressive! probably a fraction of the cost toodoesnotexist
    • nothing holds you back from buying copyrighted designs, and the fashion industry has a lot of these.sted
    • @doesnotexist what should we do with the manufacturers whos RnD is 100% based on corporate spies and reverse engineering?sted
    • You invent something, invest in the r&d, building prototypes, financing etc. deal with the manufacturability of the product for the given customer market.sted
    • The product looks like a success, selling really nice, you start the development on new markets, improvements, features, while ramping up the production.sted
    • Because you were convinced on the spot that it is a good idea to do this in China at that factory. You will not hesitate to give them the advance they ask for.sted
    • Now that money you sent to increase production will be used to finance a cheap piss-poor version of your product and the random brand they build around it.sted
    • 3-6 months later a similar product will show up on one of the Chinese wholesale sites.sted
    • The quality issues are going to start to increase. You will look for a new factory, while your thoughts are around product liability. That Chinese brandsted
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