Artificial Intelligence

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    ok, I've now read the full NYT complaint filed this morning vs OpenAI and Microsoft. I'm impressed - it's future-focused around fair value for work vital to democracy. It also contains 220k pages of exhibits although the pages of Ex J stood out to me.

    https://twitter.com/jason_kint/s…

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    • it reads like they're going for a settlement though, or is there an expectation of some sort of legislation? punitive measures?kingsteven
    • trained AI-s can't have a monetary value.sted
    • ^ because in the US 'transformative use' is interpreted based on precedent set by google search, which relies on linking back to the sources. EU has actual lawskingsteven
    • around scraping and storing information, the in US it seems these cases rely on arguing they're out of line with the legal precedentkingsteven
    • it would seem that the law on transformative-use which enables scraping datasets (and having no 'monetary value') is so interwoven with previous IP lawkingsteven
    • that it couldn't be changed without overturning a century's worth of arcane IP rulings. but they can still argue that they're out of line with the current lawkingsteven
    • i can totally imagine this will lead to a settlement or a ruling which appears punitive but actually somehow validates OpenAI's business model furtherkingsteven
    • and both legal teams are currently using GPT-4 to prepare their cases.kingsteven
    • If OpenAI does collapse, WeWork style, it will likely be seen as a tale of hubris.
      They knew infringement was going to be a major issue.They proceeded anyway      neverscared
    • That will not play well in front of juries.
      In the end it could devour them.      neverscared
    • and everyone else reading about it from the NYT on archive.is rather than feeding one line in to GPT and waiting for it to plagiarise.kingsteven
    • copyright is not abolished...neverscared
    • the scale of openAI is too huge, if it was to 'fail' it would be a stunt by microsoft to aquire and further commoditise the tech. MS could have bought NYTkingsteven
    • twice for the investment they've put in to OpenAI. Considering the US gov't push to stay at the forefront of AI tech and the billions invested in AI startups...kingsteven
    • i just don't think anything will come from it other than a headline grabbing '500m settlement' and a slap on the wrist.kingsteven
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