Russia-Ukraine Invasion
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A WAR OF LIES
The war in Ukraine is based on lies — lies about how it started, how it’s going, and how it will end.
We are told that Ukraine is winning when in fact it is losing. We are told that the war makes NATO stronger when in fact it is depleting it. We are told that Ukraine’s biggest problem is a lack of funds from the U.S. Congress when in fact the West can’t produce enough ammunition — a problem that will take years to fix. We are told that Russia is suffering greater casualties when in fact Ukraine is running out of soldiers — another problem money can’t fix.
We are told that the world is with us when in fact the Global Majority believes U.S. policy is the height of folly. We are told that there is no opportunity to make peace when in fact we have rejected multiple opportunities for a negotiated settlement. We are told that if Ukraine keeps fighting, it will improve its negotiating position when in fact the terms will only get much worse than what was already available and rejected.
Nevertheless the lies will succeed in dragging out the war. Congress will appropriate more funds. Russia will take more territory. Ukraine will mobilize more young men and women to feed into the meat grinder. Discontent will mount. Eventually there will be a crisis in Kiev and the Zelensky government will be toppled.
And then, when the war is finally lost, when the whole country lays in smoldering ruins on a funeral pyre of their own making, the liars will say “well we tried.” Having prevented any alternative, having smeared anyone who told the truth as puppets for the enemy, the liars will say “We did our best. We stood up to Putin.”
In fact, they will claim, we would have succeeded but for the fifth column of Putin apologists who stabbed the Ukrainians in the back. Then, having shifted blame and patted themselves on the back, they will blithely move on to the next war, as they moved onto Ukraine after their disasters in Afghanistan and Iraq.
The lies are comprehensive — but they will work.
- Huh? What does the US war have to do with "US Policy"? This isn't Iraq for fs.
Where did this mumble of words come from?formed - I hope this is copied/pasted nonsense like your post below, for your sake.formed
- Wait, you're complaining about mumbling with that word salad? I hope English is not your native language.Milan
- Lie#1 The war was necessary to prevent NATO on Russia's border.
fact: they've been there since the baltic states joined_niko - Lie#2 : it was necessary to de-NAZIfy Ukraine.
Fact: lolz on so many levels least of which is Russia has million x more nazi thugs_niko - Would the U.S. tolerate a Russian or China-led military alliance in Canada or Mexico?Milan
- Lie#3: Ukraine would roll over and treat Russia as Liberators
fact: nobody likes the Ruskies, even #1 Henchman Prigozhin knew it was a farce_niko - ...and turned on Putin_niko
- Russia has one nazi less after Navalny's death, lol.Milan
- Prigozhin never turned on Putin, dummy. He had beef with Shoigu.Milan
- sure. Putin hid and became bunker bitch because Prigozhin marched his Mercs towards Moscow for Shogun? right._niko
- I'm sure you would have been much braver in his shoes.Milan
- But we should believe you instead. Ha!toemaas
- Huh? What does the US war have to do with "US Policy"? This isn't Iraq for fs.