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- Jnr_Madison0
*raises hand.
- ilmarine0
i think that those men who actually work as diamond cutters somewhere in india can be considered lucky. they have at least some way to support their families.
i thank god for the opportunity to not be born in far-east. at the same i can understand (at least to some degree) what their life must be like. however, if i would give in to the notion that any sane man wouldn't support such horrible activities i couldn't live my life and supposedly their life would be worse. so, i have chosen to seal my ears and eyes to their misery and get on with my life. trust me, it is more easier this way.
after all, what COULD i do about it?
- monokrom0
Best wishes on your impending engagement, btw!
It's important that we also acknowledge the roots of the engagement ring / wedding ring tradition ...
Dominant males of different species mark their territory by doing things like clawing the living hell out of the bark on strategically located trees throughout their range or urinating or defecating near the borders of their range.
Wedding and engagement rings are just the way in which men in our culture tell other men that a particular women is "taken" .... the flashier the ring, presumably, the more afflient/powerful the guy. Notice that men usually don't wear engagement rings and that their wedding rings are usually much smaller and less obtrusive.
Even if the horrible stench of misery and death associated with diamonds didn't dissuade me from going the ring route, the realization that the underlying social purpose of the ring was to mark me as some man's chattel would put me off of the whole scheme.
If you want your man to prove his affection through cash outlays, why not have him buy you a plasma tv or some semi-valuable art object?
- Jnr_Madison0
*quickly puts it down again as gf walks in :)
- Gorbie0
I like those, jevad.
- jevad0
yeah - that's a stone in mine too! It's either gonna be platinum or titanium - titanium is better for the strength and durability - and I use my hands a lot - the outer ring swivels round over the inner ring....
- shellie0
"Time to get off your soapbox ... slowly. "
Nirvoussecond quote of the day.
i dont think spending a month or two of salary on the girl youre going to spend the rest of your life with is unreasonable. its a nice gift and hopefully there would be a lot of meaning behind it.
like jevad's ring is outstanding. im jealous. you can tell your wife that.
- Jnr_Madison0
shellie's right, you'll blow a few grand on a mac but not on yer lady? Then again...
*can't decide.
- unknown0
i got a sweet deal for 2100
- shellie0
true. most guys would blow than money on themsleves anyway if they were single.
that kind of thinking is coming from a guy who most likely isnt married or is just a real big fat hippie.
- shellie0
qburt got any pictures?
- jevad0
I dunno...I have to wonder about some of the comments on here...
Like...I have a friend, and he must have spent about $10,000 on a ring for his lady, because she wouldn;t have expected anything less - and that's jsut plain *wrong*
However, there is nothing wrong with spending some good money (that I have worked hard to make) on a ring that my wife is goin gto wear for the rest of her life...something that means so much to her and I...I could have gone and got a boring platinum ring with a phat rock in it - but I chose something a littler clever that, as well as being a wedding ring, would also mean a lot to her because I cared enough to think about it, and cared enough to spend the money on it.
But as she put it - she would have been happy with a captain crunch decoder ring...and that's the difference....
- brooke0
I always imagined the moment of my engagement to be as simple as possible. Maybe laying around in bed, & he casually looks at me & asks...
But no silly fancy ring & no dramatic proposal. Sincere, sweet, & simple is all I need.
- Bio0
be jealous of the man, not the ring.
- Jnr_Madison0
Was that aimed at me?
Single? No. Fat? No. In a relationship for 8yrs and currently about 10 stone thank you very much.
- frozen0
damn, you guys are getting all philisophical.
don't forget that a lot of little girls dream about nice weddings and diamonds and shit. It ain't always about the money and the flashy shit. i bet some of you guys are just looking for a way out.
Ladies, if you don't want a ring, make it known. If you do want a ring, make it known (subtly, of course!). Don't try to give people guilt trips. Y'all are so political, chill out.
- lnu0
good points all of you's, and yeah, shellie I agree but (check prev. posts).
It's funny how girls can be pro gender equality about everything except the wedding part. Ooops now I'm starting to sound bitter :)
- 4cY0
"shellie's right, you'll blow a few grand on a mac but not on yer lady? Then again...
"well, she gotta live off the mac right? i need the mac to buy the ring!
btw. i'll never marry tho.
for one of the reasons monokrom mentioned, it's a social thing, it's a weak formality and has little to do with love and trust. I have had some really bad violent strugles in my youth when my parents should have divorced, which happened way too late... and now that they live apart they are friends again...confusing enough for me.lemme love as a human should, and not worry about the cultivated sidekicks of it..
- Bio0
all good.
i shouldnt have joined in this thread.
my mood is red and black and i am overwhelmed with deep feelings of resentment and anger.
my ex used to talk about shit like this. she focused on how much she "deserved" from the world. she had no concept of reality and was led by advertising and social norms of wealth.
apparently i have mych anger in me still. i am mildly surprised. this subject is just far too sensitive for me to continue. i will explode and splatter you all with my seething, acid suffused blood.
=)
- shellie0
im not sure who that was aimed at.