Fahrenheit 9/11
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- rasko40
do you think that anything you read in the mainstream media, anything you watch on television or anything you see at the movies or anywhere full stop is not by simply the way of the given framework of consumerist society a direct complimentary part of that system in order to sustain itself and keep dissenters at bay and the masses unable to think out of the boundaries.
You have to question your entire history before you can think freely.
- Kuz0
"my classifications are not based on opinion, they are based on scientific fact. "
lol. Thats one of the dumbest things i've ever heard.... please explain to me the scientist that instructed to u as to what constituted liberalism and what constituted conservatism?
anyway virtu, u neo-con cry baby - i was just answering what e-wo said about how Left-wing propaganda is hip - by my short term experience, it was the right-wing propaganda that seemed "hip", stoking up fears of the middle east and the muslim world.
- loudubs0
while i agree we need a paradigm shift, it's important to reach the majority of people who function on a media-controlled emotional level.
- jevad0
dude can you say anything other than dude, dude?
- unfittoprint0
smells like teen spirit.
- loudubs0
and also, it could be a dangerous thing...as we saw in the case of the "Passion" where a distortion of the truth was passed off to the average American who may or may not understand that movies and documentaries are all 'constructed' efforts.
- virtu0
kuz,
as i said before, dont talk about things unless you know exactly what is going on with them. Dude, you live in the UK, and i dont expect you to know what society is really like over here, but believe me it is not a right wing society. Liberals are the loudest voice in america, and that is a fact.
- rasko40
exactly, unfortunately its practically impossible to reach masses through the bracken of the networks because genuine news/documentary/political discourse is at odds to their ulterior motives of profit and power.
- Kuz0
The centre debate is a complete fallacy.
The opposing sides of the political spectrum are those who believe an individuals wealth is his own (the Right) and those who believe that an individuals wealth are socially created and therefore society shud benefit from it (the Left). Vast America was founded on the principles of the Right - of small government (because America constitutionally mistrusts big governemnet) - and of an individuals right to create private wealth. Therefore, u do no have a centre, u do not have left - u have a Right. Plain, and simple.
- propa0
Big Business, no surprise.
He will get his movie out, however the only problem is Mr.Moores movies often preach to the choir. Actually there are parts of his films that bend the truth pretty hard, perhaps if he toned it down it would get a broader more receptive market. We can’t use Fox news tactics against them, they will always win when we fight them using there rules.
Anyways, ENUFF OF ME!
- xaoscontrol0
I don't see how one can say the bush family and disney are entirely in kahoots since Bush is supposed to be so ultra conservative/christian/republica... and disney is alweay being protested by the Southern Baptists for offering equal health and life insurance treatment (or something of that nature) to gay/lesbian employees and thier partners.
Sorry...I don't don't see political correctness being exclusive to the conservative side of the world.
- Tara0
you guys should hear yourselves. you're having a completely pointless argument. it's like you know it as well but you just can't stop.
- dave|bxcr0
talking about something you dont know a fuck about?
like this maybe?
ou are bound to kill some civilians when they are interwoven with the enemy.
and there hasnt been that many deflections. Look at the numbers dude. 12 million people in the country of iraq. perhaps 5000 have defected. 5000 out of 12 milcoalition torture thread
- rabattski0
isn't it a problem that the gap between main stream media and independent media is too big? since main stream media is owned and controlled by just a handfull of companies who are tied to politicians, lobbies and other big corporations etc? you know he who controls the media controls the masses.
- Kuz0
it's virtu. He has a way of winding me up!!!!!!!!!
- e-wo0
"Israel shud be wary of trusting the Arabs, Islam is by its nature anti-semetic"
i've read that several places...but it was more like "The majority of the Arab youth is anti-semetic. The majority of Arab youth is also Islamic." Unfortunately, there is an (unintended, i think) association between Islam and anti-semitism, just because both seems to come from the same group of people.
I wouldn't call that a crazy statement. I would call it crazy if authors were saying "those Islamics are all Jew-haters and need to be educated or die." But, except for stupid, independent sources, I haven't heard that kind of thing voiced in mass media.
- xaoscontrol0
How did we get into the fine points of partisanship?
I thought this was about a movie, a movie studio, and a movie maker that is OVER.
- JazX0
hee hee yeah unfit
- k0na_an0k0
you say fuck disney, i say fuck michael moore. the lying bastard. stretching truths all for an extra buck.
- winter0
Lwing, Rwing: "perhaps it's different in the EU because of the metric system and all, but im talking about america dude." (by virtu)
the word "dude" is really a killer here. nice touch for such an amount of blatant ignorance.