Entry Level Question
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- Gilt001
Hey guys. As I continue on my quest to land some job that involves creativity I find myself hitting more and more roadblocks. I lost my nice little design job due to my regional manager boss losing her position (they just "went away"). Now I find myself in a job that's very touch and go. I'm currently biting my nails, waiting for the big wigs to axe my position one more time. I've been taking some classes at SVC (www.svcseattle.com) much to my other halfs chagrin. But I know its what I want to do. I don't care what it is, print design sounds most interesting to me. I'm admittedly missing some necessities such as a portfolio website to show off my wares. But I'm working on that right now. Slow going, I'm starting from ground zero for the most part.
What I'm really wondering is whether or not you guys know of positions in design houses where someone just does bitchwork. Because that's where I'm finding I might need to go. And if you know of such a place AND are in Seattle, please e-mail me. I'm exceedingly zealous and I learn on the fly like you wouldn't believe.
I've got little projects in the wings, but I'm just really out of focus. I think that's mostly due to my not being in school and my current shit job sapping my energy.
Man this is freakin' hard.
- rasko40
patience homes
- Gilt0010
I know. But i just have that feeling like the walls are closing in and I don't have a doorway out.
My fault though...
- meter0
first of all seattle is a tough town to find creative work in in my experience, which is weird considering how much $$ there is there, but you can do it. send your work to everyone and keep in touch with them,
i took a couple of classes at SVC and didn't dig it too much, the one teacher i had pissed me off. i forget her name, she was maybe 25, fat and had black curly hair and lived in hawaii. it was ok but i just didn't get along with them. but if you are enjoying it, then rock on.
anyway, stick with it... going to school is definitely the right thing to do.
- canuck0
ever thought about interning (sadly for free), and doing something else on the side (non design).
Might get you into something. A sad reality I am afraid.
- Gilt0010
I'd be more than happy to intern. Yes for free. And just keep a job. I figure getting some sort of creative job is going to be 9/10's who you know.
My sister works at Girvin Design (www.girvin.com) so hopefully that will lead me somewhere.
And meter, was your teacher Irene Huberman?
- spiralstarez0
Get that portfolio up... Hard for people to consider you for a job if they have nothing to consider you by... It's proof of your abilities, unless you are interning for bitch work people will want to make sure you have ability before they will hire you.
Funny I should say that when I don't have a site right now :-) But when looking for a job I always do.
- shotoshi0
I don't know what to say, you got me flummoxed!
A mate of mine, originally from Roseburg OR, visited me in London in the summer of 1992. We met briefly the previous summer when I was on my way to the International Pop Fest in Olympia.
We only knew each other for 1 hour but swapped details. He said he was gonna quit his day job in a lumber mill and come backbacking around europe and he asked if he could stay with me in London. Sure, I said, thinking he was fulla shit.
Sure enuff, that following summer he visited me in London. I had my own place, plenty of room. He stayed in London for almost a year, venturing off every now and then to other cities in europe. He had a string of shitty jobs but it was OK 'cos he didn't have any rent to pay as he was staying with me. He was also a drummer and did some stints in some London based bands.
Anyway, he went back to the U.S. (reluctantly) and vowed never to return to Roseburg. So, he found a place in Seattle. Did some shit jobs whilst putting himself through film school. It took him a while but he made it!
Now he is a successful freelance (a loser, I know) film maker. Successful enough to be able to have bought his own house recently in Seattle.
I guess the moral of the story is: first have some fun, decide what you want to do, do what it takes to achieve it, work hard, be focussed and above all be patient and have belief in yourself. As long as you have the talent (not always necessary) and put the hours in you will reap rewards.
Trouble is, back then we didn't have the internet so we were patient. These days, everyone wants instant success.
Instant success, is of course, for losers - it doesn't usually happen that fast unless you're willing to do sexual favours.
- Gilt0010
All good stuff guys! Thanks! Great story too shotoshi! Oddly enough, I'll be in London in March with my wife (assuming I still have a job to pay the hotels and what not). I'll have some fun.
I had it in my head to do a bit of stenciling around Seattle. I'm gonna get to work on that. It's going to be based on giving people that extra little boost to keep them going. I'm working on my website, which thankfully my brother is a pro at. Well, he's a pro at least in programming.
Thanks again!
- shotoshi0
Good stuff Gilt, just keep on it, it'll come if you want it.
Good luck!