Patenting / IP
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- Nairn
Hey kids,
Anyone here have any experience with patents or is able to share any useful resources?I'm more interested in 'physical'/industrial IP, rather than copyright, marques or software (etc).
Basically, from the ground up - how-to's, costings, background/prior-art researching, case studies, etc.
Have dug through some of the first tier results from Google, so am now looking for actual personal recommendations, etc.
Thanks,
Ewen
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- rasko40
show me what you have exactly, I may be able to help.
- kelpie0
he's up to no good Nairn, don't believe him, and certainly don't accept and sweets off him
- Nairn0
erk.. I didn't appreciate how water tight the whole non-disclosure aspect had to be (I mean, beyond the obvious)
"You cannot Patent your idea if it is in the Public Domain. Generally, your idea will go into the Public Domain if you disclose it orally or in writing to anyone who is not bound by a confidentiality agreement."
( http://www.trevorbaylisbrands.co… )Thankfully, my friends barely listen to a word I say anyway..
- UndoUndo0
We/i do nairn, two patents to my name!! and we are essentially and ID studio
Have you looked at the patent office website?:
http://www.patent.gov.uk/lots of useful info there
- Nairn0
How do you patent 'Intelligent Design'? (Harkens Discipler..)
All I've done for the past few days is mole through the UK & US patent systems (it's a bloody interesting read regardless of intent) - just kind of looking for extended resources..
Mind if I ask what patents you've been awarded (assuming they already have been! :)?
- Nairn0
ah. je suis un lazy bastard - I take it your patents are from your Siemens work?
In that case, are they in your name - and if so, did you manage to wrangle dev. funding from Siemens?
- UndoUndo0
sorry my last post didnt post,
My patents are from Uni and are for two products, one was a snowboard bmx hybrid and the other was a train->road->train system all which were granted in partnership with the Uni.
The partners here are listed as the designers under the patent for the signal head but dont have ownership.
You might want to check out the design council, and the link I gave you last has a free patent serach across all markets.
I'm sure you already know that a patent is specific to a country or region and not instantly worlwide.
the design council website might also have some info for you.
- designerror0
hire someone to do it for you. it will take less time and properly cost you less in the end.
I have a few patents and did the first one myself, but it was a fucking pain in the ass. the next one a patent company did for me and it took half the time and cost a little less.
- UndoUndo0
I would also look at design registration which is more for 'visual design' and not particlaur product design applications with unique enegineering solutions or programming algorythms etc
- designerror0
and design registration only cost a fraction of the 'real' patent
- Nairn0
I'm not too worried about the complications - I'd kind of like to understand the whole mire, so I've set aside a few weeks to try and get my head around it all. But, if it looks like it's going to cost more to do it myself.. well, I've never let pride stand in the way of cashflow.. :)
Will look into Design Registrations, but I think I'm more after a Patent covering engineering solutions... well, that's the hope, anyway! (fingers crossed)
Turned up some interesting Snowboard related items when looking for your board/BMX combo, UndoUndo..
Snow Scooter..
http://v3.espacenet.com/origdoc?…
Snowboard for Trampoline..
http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?…
Some Serious Swallow Tails..
http://v3.espacenet.com/origdoc?…
- UndoUndo0
Haha nice Nairn, the snowboard design made it to the Telegraph on Sunday and Tomorrow's world but nothing more i'm afraid and it was 6+ years ago.
the only thing i can find is this
http://corporate.coventry.ac.uk/…
I think others have cottoned onto teh idea since
- rasko40
wasn't there a bmx / snowboard thing on that show, Dragons Den or whatever it was called?
- UndoUndo0
wasn't there a bmx / snowboard thing on that show, Dragons Den or whatever it was called?
rasko4
(Jun 27 06, 04:46)yeah and it looked alright although I dont think they went with it
- Dno0
...along similar lines - does anyone know how getting a patent for a wesite idea works?
I have an idea that (to my knowledge) hasn't been done before.
Is a website idea able to be patented?
- UndoUndo0
it possible, alorythmns can be patented - google have lots for example but you would need to dicuss with an attorney who spcialises in web/software
- Nairn0
Yup, it's possible - Amazon famously had their 'one-click' shopping cart technique patented.
The scope and breadth of prior art in software is now heavily established, so nowadays it's a bit of a minefield. Back then they probably had software patents thrown out willy-nilly.
http://cse.stanford.edu/class/cs…
Basically, it'll be expensive.